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Gameface said:
I have.

I'm putting you on ignore for a day or two. We aren't having a productive conversation. Not blaming you, just saying there's no point in this back and forth right now.
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You're right it, it hasn't. I believe it stems from this misconception you have that people are blaming Trump for the virus. No one here believes he created this virus as an attempt to be re-elected.

What he did was make this infection far worse by crippling the CDC and bragging about containment for weeks instead of getting our country ready for it. Even today, he's spreading disinformation about it. All because he's worried about how this will affect his re-election.

And why shouldn't he take at least some of the blame for the stock market? He took credit for it when it was good. Why does he get to treat the stock market like his wives and porn stars?
 
Wes Mantooth said:
I think leadership matters. I know the CDC has major funding cut under *******’s watch. I have to wonder if that funding hadn’t been cut, how much better they’d be able to respond to this. How many more employees they’d have to administer tests. How many more kits they’d have and be able to distribute to healthcare facilities. Like that.

That said, a lot of what GF said is true too. There’s no stopping a virus. The best hope is to identify carriers as quickly as possible, quarantine them, and by doing so, cut it off at the head.

I have to wonder with the aforementioned lack of resources and urgency how much better we as a system could’ve prevented cases and such.
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Has any other country cut this off at the head, though? It's out there, the cat is out of the bag, the genie is out of the bottle, the toothpaste is out of the tube. This infection is going to spread. The countries with the best outcomes have not been the ones attempting to contain this virus, they have been the ones trying to best care for the people who have this virus. So our strategy is not currently the right one, but it's the one Thriller is advocating for. Good thing he's not the ****ing POTUS, right?

This thing is going to spread. Identifying the infected matters, I don't disagree at all. We have failed. I'm not sure how much better we would have done if that would have been a priority. Maybe a lot, maybe some, probably more than a little. We have failed in that regard. Trump has been an obstacle to any effort to identify how many are actually infected.

Is the goal here for Thriller to score points on Trump and I'm pissing on his party? That's what his responses have felt like. I don't care about his little party. Despite what the pro-Trumpers here think about me, I hate Trump, I hate him with a white hot burning passion, but I hate him for who he is and what he does. I don't need to make up reasons that I think will convince them I've been right all along. If they don't have a problem with Trump already I'm done trying to convince them that decency is good. They can enjoy their reality as long as the illusion can be sustained. Spoiler alert, it can't last long. When it ends it ends, and blaming covid 19 on Trump is not how that happens. If covid 19 kills several thousand people, hundreds of thousands of people in the U.S., that will happen with or without Triller's blame game. Sooner or later people will see that the emperor has no clothes. We don't gain anything by drawing pictures for these people of Trump naked handing covid 19 a bottle of lube so that it can **** him in the ***. They are going to need to see it first hand.
 
Gameface said:
Has any other country cut this off at the head, though? It's out there, the cat is out of the bag, the genie is out of the bottle, the toothpaste is out of the tube. This infection is going to spread. The countries with the best outcomes have not been the ones attempting to contain this virus, they have been the ones trying to best care for the people who have this virus. So our strategy is not currently the right one, but it's the one Thriller is advocating for. Good thing he's not the ****ing POTUS, right?

This thing is going to spread. Identifying the infected matters, I don't disagree at all. We have failed. I'm not sure how much better we would have done if that would have been a priority. Maybe a lot, maybe some, probably more than a little. We have failed in that regard. Trump has been an obstacle to any effort to identify how many are actually infected.

Is the goal here for Thriller to score points on Trump and I'm pissing on his party? That's what his responses have felt like. I don't care about his little party. Despite what the pro-Trumpers here think about me, I hate Trump, I hate him with a white hot burning passion, but I hate him for who he is and what he does. I don't need to make up reasons that I think will convince them I've been right all along. If they don't have a problem with Trump already I'm done trying to convince them that decency is good. They can enjoy their reality as long as the illusion can be sustained. Spoiler alert, it can't last long. When it ends it ends, and blaming covid 19 on Trump is not how that happens. If covid 19 kills several thousand people, hundreds of thousands of people in the U.S., that will happen with or without Triller's blame game. Sooner or later people will see that the emperor has no clothes. We don't gain anything by drawing pictures for these people of Trump naked handing covid 19 a bottle of lube so that it can **** him in the ***. They are going to need to see it first hand.
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What I'm advocating for? Nothing I'm advocating for is original. I'm not a medical professional. What I'm advocating for is what I've read leading health officials from our country and from the WHO have advocated for.

And no matter how many times you state this, no one here is blaming this disease on Trump. We are blaming him for our country's response to it.

You're right, this conversation hasn't been productive at all. It's literally like talking to the wall. You picked one thing out of one of my posts yesterday/earlier today and seem fixated on it no matter how many times it's been addressed.

Was it the #winning post?

The Thriller said:
#winning
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Seems like it was. Come on. Sorry for that joke making you think I was blaming the disease on Trump.
 
I’m seriously out of control. I hit refresh every 10 minutes on my phone praying to see “27 new coronavirus cases in New Jersey!”
 
Wes Mantooth said:
Okay can we all just settle the **** down and pray for Wes that his district shuts down? Paid of course.
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You don't even know how much I'd love it if my workplace had an extended shutdown for this. **** when Fish said he thought he might have it I did a little fist bump.
 
Gameface said:
You don't even know how much I'd love it if my workplace had an extended shutdown for this. **** when Fish said he thought he might have it I did a little fist bump.
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Yep. A few coworkers know people whose work told them to work from home. Still waiting for MsSerp to EY the email to do the same...though she works from home like 80% of the time anyway now.
 
Gameface said:
You don't even know how much I'd love it if my workplace had an extended shutdown for this. **** when Fish said he thought he might have it I did a little fist bump.
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Update on my health: I was feeling much better yesterday for most of the day and then it came back with a vengeance last night. Really rough night and morning. I can't even talk currently. My voice is completely gone.
My wife is sick now too. I MIGHT even actually go to the doctor for this one. (I never go to the ****ing doctor)

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fishonjazz said:
Update on my health: I was feeling much better yesterday for most of the day and then it came back with a vengeance last night. Really rough night and morning. I can't even talk currently. My voice is completely gone.
My wife is sick now too. I MIGHT even actually go to the doctor for this one. (I never go to the ****ing doctor)

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That really sucks. I'd go to the doctor if possible. Get this thing figured out. One time I came down with a really bad case of flu. Then it went into pneumonia during one of our terrible inversions. I almost never go to the doctor and felt like a wuss. But I didn't start feeling better until I went to the doctor... After three doctor trips and 2.5 months later, I finally started to feel better.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
Yep. A few coworkers know people whose work told them to work from home. Still waiting for MsSerp to EY the email to do the same...though she works from home like 80% of the time anyway now.
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Give it time. Right now the focus is on the stock market. But tomorrow and Wednesday, the focus will return to the virus. My wife works in finance in one of the world's largest banks and right now they're advising everyone to work from home. This thinking is bound to trickle down. Public Edu is usually one of the last to catch on. In Utah, they still don't give women any paid maternity leave. If you work in tech or finance, you're given months and months of paid maternity and paternity leave.
 
Gameface said:
Come on man.

Even if handled better by some other POTUS, do you think the outcome would be dramatically different? Do you think that in the several other countries with an outbreak it's because they have their own Trump in charge?
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I think the spread of the disease would have been similar. The incubation period is just too long.

A more competent POTUS would have had tests that work, an earlier preparation of facilities, and would not have overridden the advice of the CDC.
 
One Brow said:
I think the spread of the disease would have been similar. The incubation period is just too long.

A more competent POTUS would have had tests that work, an earlier preparation of facilities, and would not have overridden the advice of the CDC.
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You'd think these types of decisions would be made by many more people than the POTUS. It's just bizarre how much one person can **** things up.
 
fishonjazz said:
Update on my health: I was feeling much better yesterday for most of the day and then it came back with a vengeance last night. Really rough night and morning. I can't even talk currently. My voice is completely gone.
My wife is sick now too. I MIGHT even actually go to the doctor for this one. (I never go to the ****ing doctor)

Sent from my ONEPLUS A6013 using JazzFanz mobile app
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Hope you feel better soon, man. Being sick blows. I'm due for the flu so I'm crossing my fingers. I swear I have the worst luck too.
 
fishonjazz said:
Update on my health: I was feeling much better yesterday for most of the day and then it came back with a vengeance last night. Really rough night and morning. I can't even talk currently. My voice is completely gone.
My wife is sick now too. I MIGHT even actually go to the doctor for this one. (I never go to the ****ing doctor)

Sent from my ONEPLUS A6013 using JazzFanz mobile app
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there were rumors over the weekend that ingesting cocaine cured the Cornavirus - but it has since been debunked.

https://www.businessinsider.com/cor...-spreads-rebutted-by-french-government-2020-3


Darn! I was just going to suggest that we all go to Fishon's house to watch the game tonight!

Even still - I say it couldn't hurt - stay well!
 
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