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Cotton Making Life Difficult for Trey Burke

GoFriars said:
As a Cotton homer, and NOT a Utah Jazz fan, I would really like to see Cotton move to another team. Clearly, Exum is your guy and I believe/know Cotton can be a starter/ significant minutes back-up. With 5 PG's in contention there are plenty of other teams out there that don't have a starting PG none the less a back-up PG.
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Coach,
Looking at some of the teams out there with a glaring need for backup PG support, I see teams like Portland, Orlando, Philadelphia, the Knicks, Brooklyn and Indiana. Which one of these dumpster fire teams would you prefer for your guy?
Oh, the Warriors and Clips also need a backup PG but how much playing time do you think Cotton would get behind the two best PG in the game today?
 
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Red said:
I should shut up, but ya know what? I'm gonna allay your fears altogether.

All he has to do is make this roster. Think about it. He's on a team where 12,000 fans attend a SL game. And the veterans players are on the sidelines. They are hungry for a winner, players and fans alike. Can you see what he's walking into? How much ya wanna bet jersey #8 sells big with the kids? He won't be lost at the end of a bench. You don't have to start to excel, and he will be a fan favorite on an up and coming team. At a time when they are hungry to turn the corner and compete. You see him signal the crowd after the dunk Thursday? He will be a fan favorite, and will certainly earn minutes. Just make the roster, and he will take care of all the rest. It's a perfect landing. Just make the roster. He belongs and he's ready to play. We're gonna love it!
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I see what your'e saying and ideally I would love to see that happen, but I just feel in a very crowded PG spot there won't be enough minutes for Cotton to stand out. As you know, he's a pass first kind of guy so I just feel like it will take a lot to go right for Cotton to be put in that spot. I like the Jazz from what Ive seen and Quin seems like a really great guy but as someone who wants to see the best position for Cotton, I feel like that is else where.

PS already have his jersey
 
GoFriars said:
I see what your'e saying and ideally I would love to see that happen, but I just feel in a very crowded PG spot there won't be enough minutes for Cotton to stand out. As you know, he's a pass first kind of guy so I just feel like it will take a lot to go right for Cotton to be put in that spot. I like the Jazz from what Ive seen and Quin seems like a really great guy but as someone who wants to see the best position for Cotton, I feel like that is else where.

PS already have his jersey
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If Burke is traded, Cotton could easily be getting 20 minutes a game here. Maybe even more considering Exum can slide over to SG for small ball.
We were willing to give him his first real chance in the NBA, and will reap the benefits.
 
GoFriars said:
I see what your'e saying and ideally I would love to see that happen, but I just feel in a very crowded PG spot there won't be enough minutes for Cotton to stand out. As you know, he's a pass first kind of guy so I just feel like it will take a lot to go right for Cotton to be put in that spot. I like the Jazz from what Ive seen and Quin seems like a really great guy but as someone who wants to see the best position for Cotton, I feel like that is else where.

PS already have his jersey
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Where exactly...You see to think he just is an autofill for the majority of starting PG spots in the league. He is in good hands..please quit be so crazy and make yourself look smart and agree with the rest of the BASKETBALL fans. Thanks.
 
GoFriars said:
As a Cotton homer, and NOT a Utah Jazz fan, I would really like to see Cotton move to another team. Clearly, Exum is your guy and I believe/know Cotton can be a starter/ significant minutes back-up. With 5 PG's in contention there are plenty of other teams out there that don't have a starting PG none the less a back-up PG.
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GTFO then, go to Cottonfanz.com
 
GoFriars said:
As a Cotton homer, and NOT a Utah Jazz fan, I would really like to see Cotton move to another team. Clearly, Exum is your guy and I believe/know Cotton can be a starter/ significant minutes back-up. With 5 PG's in contention there are plenty of other teams out there that don't have a starting PG none the less a back-up PG.
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If there were a team out there that viewed Cotton as a starter or quality backup, he'd have been traded for a decent return long ago. I doubt the Jazz do anything before late in the preseason (barring a no-brainer trade offer).
 
GVC said:
If there were a team out there that viewed Cotton as a starter or quality backup, he'd have been traded for a decent return long ago. I doubt the Jazz do anything before late in the preseason (barring a no-brainer trade offer).
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So the Jazz want to trade someone that is 22, improving, and plays their current weakest position? Makes sense.
 
GoFriars said:
As a Cotton homer, and NOT a Utah Jazz fan, I would really like to see Cotton move to another team. Clearly, Exum is your guy and I believe/know Cotton can be a starter/ significant minutes back-up. With 5 PG's in contention there are plenty of other teams out there that don't have a starting PG none the less a back-up PG.
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Perhaps you should be Cotton's agent? How silly of Cotton to accept the Jazz's offer when we brought him up from the D-League last year. If only the Jazz had left him alone, he could now be playing for the Lakers or the Suns or the Knicks or ... anywhere but here.
 
Stifle Tower said:
@Red
I really don't see a scenario in which Cotton DOESN'T make the roster. Well, a trade for some great veteran, I suppose. Right now, I think it comes down to C. Johnson vs. Millsap for the final roster spot. Jazz will cut Jerrett and eat the guaranteed portion of his salary in order to keep Cooley.

Wouldn't surprise me at all to see the Jazz trade Burke during training camp. They probably want to see how Neto is going to fit in with the veterans and if his skill set can replace Trey's. I like what Cotton brings to the table. He's an exciting player.
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Nice article on Cotton in the news feed. Sounds like Cooley agrees with you, Stifle Tower:


“Yeah. I mean, I think the Jazz are going to try to find a way to keep Bryce on this team,” said Cooley, who’s in a similar situation with a nonguaranteed multi-year deal.

“To have a minimum-contract point guard that’s that skilled is an extremely precious thing to have. I think the Jazz front office has some of the smartest guys in the NBA. They’ll figure out a way to make that work.”
 
GoFriars said:
I see what your'e saying and ideally I would love to see that happen, but I just feel in a very crowded PG spot there won't be enough minutes for Cotton to stand out. As you know, he's a pass first kind of guy so I just feel like it will take a lot to go right for Cotton to be put in that spot. I like the Jazz from what Ive seen and Quin seems like a really great guy but as someone who wants to see the best position for Cotton, I feel like that is else where.

PS already have his jersey
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You keep calling him a "pass first" guy, but last Thursday night in the Jazz SL final, who did the coaches tell to take it to 'em.? Who went to the free throw 11 times in the Miami game? Who gets into the paint for his shot almost anytime he wants? You've got yourself a guard who is so quick, he might as well be a blur out on the court, and he's a good shot who knows how to get himself open, and he can get to the line like that?? You don't think that means points for the second unit?
10-11 from the line in the last game, 8-9 the game before.

I'm sure you don't really mean it, but you're just demonstrating a complete lack of faith in Bryce Cotton. Haven't you been watching him? Do you think Quin Snyder is clueless?? What do you want, 40 minutes a game? You should at least know by now that you are not going to keep Bryce Cotton off the court. Why send him to a losing team? The players here apparently feel like a family. Embrace the opportunity to be part of that.

I'll tell you this as well. Bryce won't be a starter, but he will be a leader on this team. Bryce will be one of the leaders on this team. He fires guys up. He fires the fans up. Make the roster, and before the season is out, he will be a leader, a fan favorite, and you will see him get the headlines now and then. Because you know putting him in the game at the right time will bring great results.
 
@GoFriars, lost on the bench, not enough minutes??
This is more like it:

https://panicbutton.sportsblog.com/...ton-lighting-vegas-summer-league-on-fire.html

"If Bryce Cotton continues his stellar play at the Las Vegas Summer League, he'll be a lock to make the Utah Jazz roster. If Bryce Cotton continues to play like he's been playing at the Summer League competition then the Utah Jazz are going to have a good problem, splitting up minutes at the PG position between Dante Exum, Trey Burke and Cotton.

Cotton ripped the Miami Heat Summer League team for 28 points in exactly 28 minutes. While the 28 points happened on 8-15 shooting, you have to be impressed that Cotton got to the free-throw line 11 times, making 10 of his attempts. Cotton also led the Jazz with four assists.

In the Jazz Las Vegas opener, Cotton scored 20 points, had five rebounds and again, led the Jazz with five assists. Again, Cotton was a monster getting to the free-throw line in a win over the Sixers, making 8-9 FT attempts.

For Cotton, this Summer-League experience has got to be a huge confidence builder for a guy that latched onto the team late in the season and contributed down the stretch.

Cotton is so athletic with that 45-inch vertical leap that it's hard not to find a reason to get him on the floor. While Dante Exum is the PG of the future, Trey Burke might find himself on the outside looking in if Cotton continues to perform at an elite level.

Cotton's ability to get in the paint and draw contact and then convert free-throws would be a solid scoring punch for the Jazz' second unit."

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I'm sorry, but play like that does not relegate a guy to 3-5 minutes a game. Quin Snyder said last season "you get excited by his potential". Bryce Cotton ain't walking into a starting position anywhere. Quin Snyder is a smart coach and then some. He is going to mentor Cotton. I admire the fact that you stick to your guns, but telling Jazz fans your guy belongs elsewhere isn't very complimentary of their franchise. A little diplomacy goes a long way. If he makes this roster, I know I am right in what I am predicting. He will be a leader on this team.
 
Red said:
@GoFriars, lost on the bench, not enough minutes??
This is more like it:

https://panicbutton.sportsblog.com/...ton-lighting-vegas-summer-league-on-fire.html

"If Bryce Cotton continues his stellar play at the Las Vegas Summer League, he'll be a lock to make the Utah Jazz roster. If Bryce Cotton continues to play like he's been playing at the Summer League competition then the Utah Jazz are going to have a good problem, splitting up minutes at the PG position between Dante Exum, Trey Burke and Cotton.

Cotton ripped the Miami Heat Summer League team for 28 points in exactly 28 minutes. While the 28 points happened on 8-15 shooting, you have to be impressed that Cotton got to the free-throw line 11 times, making 10 of his attempts. Cotton also led the Jazz with four assists.

In the Jazz Las Vegas opener, Cotton scored 20 points, had five rebounds and again, led the Jazz with five assists. Again, Cotton was a monster getting to the free-throw line in a win over the Sixers, making 8-9 FT attempts.

For Cotton, this Summer-League experience has got to be a huge confidence builder for a guy that latched onto the team late in the season and contributed down the stretch.

Cotton is so athletic with that 45-inch vertical leap that it's hard not to find a reason to get him on the floor. While Dante Exum is the PG of the future, Trey Burke might find himself on the outside looking in if Cotton continues to perform at an elite level.

Cotton's ability to get in the paint and draw contact and then convert free-throws would be a solid scoring punch for the Jazz' second unit."

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I'm sorry, but play like that does not relegate a guy to 3-5 minutes a game. Quin Snyder said last season "you get excited by his potential". Bryce Cotton ain't walking into a starting position anywhere. Quin Snyder is a smart coach and then some. He is going to mentor Cotton. I admire the fact that you stick to your guns, but telling Jazz fans your guy belongs elsewhere isn't very complimentary of their franchise. A little diplomacy goes a long way. If he makes this roster, I know I am right in what I am predicting. He will be a leader on this team.
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How dare Cotton score 28 points in 28 minutes on over 50% shooting!!!! OFF WITH HIS HEAD!!!

I love his fight, aggressive play and attitude. I am officially on the band wagon (after saying I'd cut him in another thread, I was wrong). Trade Burke for a ham sandwich or something.

Exum/Cotton/Neto
 
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