The Thriller
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Have any of you been following this story out of Michigan? What can schools do if parents don’t accept treatment for their mentally disturbed children? Why can’t we stop schools from being shot up?
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From the little I've read it sounds like those parents were real pieces of work. Mom catches teen son trying to buy ammo online and tells him that she's not mad at him, he just needs to learn how to not get caught... FFS.
Spoiler alert: Hey mom of this kid, he got caught, and so did you.
Spoiler alert: Hey mom of this kid, he got caught, and so did you.
So they bought a pistol on Black Friday that was for their 15 year old. Then they kept the gun in an unlocked nightstand.
The morning of the shooting the kid drew a picture of the gun and a shooting victim with the words, "blood everywhere" and "the thoughts won't stop, help me." This prompted the school to call the parents in for a meeting. The parents didn't check if the gone was gone, didn't inform the school that they had purchased the 15 year old a gun, didn't ask the kid if he had the gun, nothing. After the meeting the kid went back to class before eventually using the gun to kill four people and injure others.
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The morning of the shooting the kid drew a picture of the gun and a shooting victim with the words, "blood everywhere" and "the thoughts won't stop, help me." This prompted the school to call the parents in for a meeting. The parents didn't check if the gone was gone, didn't inform the school that they had purchased the 15 year old a gun, didn't ask the kid if he had the gun, nothing. After the meeting the kid went back to class before eventually using the gun to kill four people and injure others.
Parents of Michigan school shooting suspect are charged with involuntary manslaughter
Prosecutors laid out a timeline of "egregious" actions and missed opportunities, including buying their son a gun for Christmas and refusing to take him home after school officials raised concerns.
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The thing that did it for me was that when the parents heard that there was an active shooter, the mother texted her son, "Don't do it." Not, "Are you ok?" She assumed it was him. The father, meanwhile, again without expressing any concern for his kid, went home to check if the gun was still there.
They both knew what their kid was capable of, which, as the parent of a child with mental health issues, ok, that is what it is. But to buy a kid with these obvious issues a gun?
I'm glad they were caught hiding in, apparently, an abandoned warehouse. $500,000 bail. Screw them. Let them rot in the cell next to the kid they screwed up so badly.
They both knew what their kid was capable of, which, as the parent of a child with mental health issues, ok, that is what it is. But to buy a kid with these obvious issues a gun?
I'm glad they were caught hiding in, apparently, an abandoned warehouse. $500,000 bail. Screw them. Let them rot in the cell next to the kid they screwed up so badly.
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The Thriller
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Why not try… you know… gun control instead?
Legit dumb. That's for attention and nothing more. First of all, bullet proof vests already exist in all sizes, so this guy didn't "create" anything. It solves nothing, it's unrelated to the actual issue, it's just noise designed so someone can literally post this exact comment as a response on twitter or facebook "I can't believe this is where we are as a society, where kids need to wear bullet proof vests to school." I haven't looked, but I would put money that almost that exact same comment is on that twitter.
The Thriller
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Point well taken. You’re probably right.
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I don’t know what the answers are. I don’t want to argue in another dumb automatic v semi automatic debate with people. But I gotta think there are moderate and rational measures we can take to make our schools, theaters, shopping centers, churches and communities safer without the need for bullet proof vests, clear backpacks, and metal detectors everywhere. Right now it just feels like the Wild West.
I mean metal detectors make a lot more sense than everyone wearing a vest all day.
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These people deserve to be locked away. The son I almost feel bad for hearing the back story.
We had a shooter threaten our local high school through instagram... the school is empty today. Sucks kids/parents can't feel safe from irresponsible morons like these parents.
The Thriller
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They do. But I can only imagine the freak outs we’ll see from people who either don’t want to go through the metal detector or refuse to stop when it goes off. We’ve seen for two years now people freaking out over some Costco worker asking them to wear masks. Just imagine how these people will react with metal detectors.
The Thriller
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This has a long lasting effects and none of them are positive.
For kids? Obviously, the effects are too many to name.
For employees at the school? How do the feel valued? They don’t. How do their spouses feel? Why wouldn’t you just get another job?
For future teachers? like the health care industry, there’s a huge shortage of good people. Why would anyone go into this profession?
For society? We’ll do everything to pander to gun interests, even sacrifice education.
No other industrialized country operates like this. I don’t like this. Our culture and society is so sick
