They were the 1 seed and drafted Tatum with the Nets pick.
Culture of winning or tank?
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Yeah but the year they traded the big three they also won 25 games.
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Which is the same path we’re on with the Cavs and Twolves pick, no?
Ainge is just doing the same thing here he did with the Celtics.
You said they tanked to grab Tatum.
Point is Both Celtics and GSW were winning 20 something games before they are this good. Do they not have a winning culture now?
Well they got bad and got the picks that led to Tatum. Whatever.
They do, but not because of players they acquired via tanking.
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How did GSW get Curry?
By finishing 10th in the West and drafting him in the following offseason.
Tanking and winning cultures are not mutually exclusive guys c’mon.
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Yeah and 10th is a good record?
It's not tanking.
What IS tanking? To me it’s being bad for a few years to reload. It’s wide. It doesn’t mean you have to be the WoRst team.
Yeah that's different than tanking I think. Making moves for the purpose of rebuilding/reloading is fine. If you win fewer games as a result and get a better pick, that's an added bonus but it's not the purpose of those moves.
Making moves just for the purpose of losing games is tanking. Sitting good players out for no reason other than to lose is tanking.
To me Tanking is a PROCESS that starts with the GM trading away all your best talent and decides that the team will be bad for a while to accumulate new talent via you being bad & the picks that you get later down the line.
Many here have said it, the PLAYERS and the COACH themselves don't tank. They actually do their best to win.
It's the GM that actually decides on how much talent the team has.
Many here have said it, the PLAYERS and the COACH themselves don't tank. They actually do their best to win.
It's the GM that actually decides on how much talent the team has.
So Ainge traded Gobert and Mitchell before the season starts - and according to you that's not tanking.
Then during the season Ainge trades Conley and Clarkson to lose more games - you're gonna say that's tanking?
It's the same part of the WHOLE PROCESS.
Ok so In reverse what is winning couture? To me it is playing the best players you have and trying to complete. As long as the Jazz are playing hard and competitive that is what is important. Tanking is when you have better players sitting on the bench and you just roll the ball out with young guys and don’t care about the outcome. At least that’s the difference in my mind.
That’s why I think some of the bad tanking teams stay bad.
Meh.
You said it yourself that Ainge is doing what he did with the Celtics. He rebuilt the Celtics into title contenders twice, and in neither case did he ever rely on a drafted player from the Celtics being bad.
That isn't tanking at all. He got a ****load of young players and other teams picks.
Tanking is trying to be bad so that your OWN draft pick is terrible.