Dame Time

[Handlogten's Heros]

Lmao you're being a clown then. If loyalty extended beyond the paycheck then Lillard should have a list longer than a single team.

Why… there is no logic there. I love when you get to name calling cuz it means you are out of intelligent arguments.

 

[Elizah Huge]

He gave them 10 years and was willing to stay if they gave him help with some of their assets… they did nothing. He didn’t run from the grind… the grind wore him out and he wants a chance to compete… Portland hasn’t given him that and really haven’t tried or invested anything significant.

Running from the grind is quite literally forcing your way to a team that just made the Finals.

It’s not like he’s saying trade me to a contender so I can compete.

 

[Elizah Huge]

And it's a direct quote from the podcast that released on video Monday and was rereleased today on podcast, was recorded on Sunday.

It’s not a direct quote but ok I really don’t care enough to argue about it.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Crazy that Lillard's team has hired HH to conduct propaganda on JFC

Crazy you running with the popular opinion and siding with the billionaire owners.

 

[whatthe]

The Jazz are not on the same level as Miami. Dame wants a championship quickly and the Heat are his best option. I assume Same didn't see any immediate hope in Portland and has moved on. The Ja are somewhere between the Blazers and the Heat. It would take some master maneuvering to get the Jazz there quick enough... However...I think Ainge is capable of doing that. We would just need to convince Dame that it is possible.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Running from the grind is quite literally forcing your way to a team that just made the Finals.

It’s not like he’s saying trade me to a contender so I can compete.

They made the finals but they aren’t some stacked team… they were a play in team this year… this ain’t KD going to the warriors.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Crazy you running with the popular opinion and siding with the billionaire owners.

I'm siding with the fans of the Blazers brother.

 

[Elizah Huge]

They made the finals but they aren’t some stacked team… they were a play in team this year… this ain’t KD going to the warriors.

It’s not the same obviously but it’s in the same vein.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I don't think "loyalty" should be a word used in sports imo.

Both sides should just act in their best self interest and be honest.

If you want to control where you go you should have negotiated a NTC. If you don't, you have to play where you are traded to. If you choose to exercise your influence to impact where you go, you should be criticized.

The NBA should look to curtail these things as much as possible. Giving big market/vacation destination locations more power by having discounted stars on trades is no bueno.

 

[whatthe]

I respect Dame. It is just a choice. He has given us plenty of love. Athletes have their brain and hearts. I don't have that. I also wouldn't be shocked if his thinking a little more complex than that and I am not going to jump up and down if he changes his mind.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

It’s not the same obviously but it’s in the same vein.

It's the same.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

The Jazz are not on the same level as Miami. Dame wants a championship quickly and the Heat are his best option. I assume Same didn't see any immediate hope in Portland and has moved on. The Ja are somewhere between the Blazers and the Heat. It would take some master maneuvering to get the Jazz there quick enough... However...I think Ainge is capable of doing that. We would just need to convince Dame that it is possible.

Heat were an 8th seed that lost a play-in game to the Hawks. They matched up with the Bucks when Giannis was having injury issues and the Knicks in the 2nd round. They beat the Celtics in 7 games, which was really impressive. They then didn't put up much resistance in the Finals against Denver. You can say Miami is a contender, but they're not necessarily the favorite to come out of the EC, even if they trade for Dame, imo.

 

[whatthe]

Heat were an 8th seed that lost a play-in game to the Hawks. They matched up with the Bucks when Giannis was having injury issues and the Knicks in the 2nd round. They beat the Celtics in 7 games, which was really impressive. They then didn't put up much resistance in the Finals against Denver. You can say Miami is a contender, but they're not necessarily the favorite to come out of the EC, even if they trade for Dame, imo.

Uhh.. reluctantly..you are right. What Dame believes and wants probably clouds that though.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I don't think "loyalty" should be a word used in sports imo.

Both sides should just act in their best self interest and be honest.

If you want to control where you go you should have negotiated a NTC. If you don't, you have to play where you are traded to. If you choose to exercise your influence to impact where you go, you should be criticized.

The NBA should look to curtail these things as much as possible. Giving big market/vacation destination locations more power by having discounted stars on trades is no bueno.

Lol… the owners wrote the damn rules. This is exactly what they asked for. They wanted players under contract so they didn’t have a Heat big three situation. They got 10 years of dame and will get some assets on the way out… I’m cool with a player deciding where he wants to be… players are people not pawns on the chess board. He gave them his best… they didn’t do much to help… they are an organization in a state of flux with a ****** owner.

We want to force people to do what we want where we want them to do it and be happy about it. Good luck.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

This is a pretty interesting scenario. Player X signs a massive contract with his home team, the most he could possibly sign for. Player X then requests a trade, naming only one team as his preferred destination. Then his agent puts out the story that Dame will be 'disgruntled' if he ends up anywhere besides where he wants to go. It's a veiled threat that Dame won't show up and play.

David Locke is making it sound like Dame's agent is calling teams and telling them not to trade for Dame.

If Dame only wants to go to one team in the league, he can make that happen by signing with them in free agency. However, to throw a fit like this after signing a 4-year contract extension is unprofessional to say the least.

 

[whatthe]

Lol… the owners wrote the damn rules. This is exactly what they asked for. They wanted players under contract so they didn’t have a Heat big three situation. They got 10 years of dame and will get some assets on the way out… I’m cool with a player deciding where he wants to be… players are people not pawns on the chess board. He gave them his best… they didn’t do much to help… they are an organization in a state of flux with a ****** owner.

We want to force people to do what we want where we want them to do it and be happy about it. Good luck.

Exactly. You have players until they hit their thirties they have a ton of power if they are an all star.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Lol… the owners wrote the damn rules. This is exactly what they asked for. They wanted players under contract so they didn’t have a Heat big three situation. They got 10 years of dame and will get some assets on the way out… I’m cool with a player deciding where he wants to be… players are people not pawns on the chess board. He gave them his best… they didn’t do much to help… they are an organization in a state of flux with a ****** owner.

We want to force people to do what we want where we want them to do it and be happy about it. Good luck.

How are you cool with players forcing their way to big markets and forcing their teams to take a lesser package to do so?

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Lol… the owners wrote the damn rules. This is exactly what they asked for. They wanted players under contract so they didn’t have a Heat big three situation. They got 10 years of dame and will get some assets on the way out… I’m cool with a player deciding where he wants to be… players are people not pawns on the chess board. He gave them his best… they didn’t do much to help… they are an organization in a state of flux with a ****** owner.

We want to force people to do what we want where we want them to do it and be happy about it. Good luck.

Dame knew what he was doing when he signed a 4-year contract extension for $250 million. Portland owns his rights and can trade him anywhere, or do nothing and decide not to trade him at all.

Dame has to honor his contract, or he's in breach. Dame has every right to choose the very team or teams he wants to play for. It's called 'free agency,' but he chose to forego that opportunity.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Lol… the owners wrote the damn rules. This is exactly what they asked for. They wanted players under contract so they didn’t have a Heat big three situation. They got 10 years of dame and will get some assets on the way out… I’m cool with a player deciding where he wants to be… players are people not pawns on the chess board. He gave them his best… they didn’t do much to help… they are an organization in a state of flux with a ****** owner.

We want to force people to do what we want where we want them to do it and be happy about it. Good luck.

Then negotiate a NTC. They exist for a reason.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

This is a pretty interesting scenario. Player X signs a massive contract with his home team, the most he could possibly sign for. Player X then requests a trade, naming only one team as his preferred destination. Then his agent puts out the story that Dame will be 'disgruntled' if he ends up anywhere besides where he wants to go. It's a veiled threat that Dame won't show up and play.

David Locke is making it sound like Dame's agent is calling teams and telling them not to trade for Dame.

If Dame only wants to go to one team in the league, he can make that happen by signing with them in free agency. However, to throw a fit like this after signing a 4-year contract extension is unprofessional to say the least.

The thing is Dame isn't going to come out and say it so I imagine this is all posturing and he will end up preserving his brand and play wherever he gets traded to.