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Dante Exum vs. Zach Lavine

You are keen, good sir! You have mastered the Parthian Shot, I must admit. A true modern master of the more testosterone laden arena of sport forum vernacular and the maintaining of the position of power within this arena. Bravo, bravo!

*left foot sways too and fro in front of the right, in a horizontal line between us*

Thanks, I do try to be keen.
 
Lavine played real comp last year and Exum has not. Face it Exum is a mystery to everyone. Noone knows how he hoing play when the regular season starts and on top of it he is a 19 year old kid. Funny some think he can come in and should start fro day 1 of Trey.
 
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Zack Lavine will be the steal of the draft and will be better than Wiggins. Exum can't even play three minutes without grabbing his shorts. Exum is two years away from being two years away.
 
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Either that or he is just stoopid..
I'll give him the benefit of the doubt...for now.
It was so obvious from Game #1 who the better PG prospect on the Jazz was. Granted, Exum's conditioning was horrible. But that's to be expected; he's been working out, but not playing competitively. I'm really not worried about his ability to get into game shape. Unless Trey can suddenly learn to play faster and become a reliable shooter, his days are numbered.
 
Zack Lavine will be the steal of the draft and will be better than Wiggins. Exum can't even play three minutes without grabbing his shorts. Exum is two years away from being two years away.

I know you're joking, but it was surprising to see how fast Exum got winded. I think we'll see a player in much better shape at the start of the season. The entire Exum vs. LaVine SL comparison might be moot just due to the shape Exum was in. Maybe he gets in great shape and blows everyone out of the water.
 
Zack Lavine will be the steal of the draft and will be better than Wiggins. Exum can't even play three minutes without grabbing his shorts. Exum is two years away from being two years away.

Fran Fischella called, wants royalties for you stealing his line.
 
Anyone else see Lavine drop 28 and 5 last night? I wish Exum would be a little more aggressive in trying to score. It's obvious he can get by people when he wants. Just want to see him finish.

https://scores.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400578526

I think Lavine is the better prospect, but to be fair he's had the benefit of playing AAU ball and one year of big time collegiate hoops. Exum hasn't had that luxury. Lavine IMO is the superior athlete, better dribbler and has the edge in shooting. Exum just has the court vision over Lavine.
 
Anyone else see Lavine drop 28 and 5 last night? I wish Exum would be a little more aggressive in trying to score. It's obvious he can get by people when he wants. Just want to see him finish.

https://scores.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400578526

I'm pretty sure Exum can have a similar night even though he is raw and young. We just need Trey Burke to get injured so that there is no other option but to play Exum a lot of minutes. That's what it took for Lavine to have this kind of game. He needed both Rubio and Mo Williams to get injured. If those two didn't get injured you would have never seen a game like this from Lavine, even though he is fully capable of it.
 
I'm pretty sure Exum can have a similar night even though he is raw and young. We just need Trey Burke to get injured so that there is no other option but to play Exum a lot of minutes. That's what it took for Lavine to have this kind of game. He needed both Rubio and Mo Williams to get injured. If those two didn't get injured you would have never seen a game like this from Lavine, even though he is fully capable of it.

Exum might be able to do it at the end of the year. He can barely score as it is against bench players.


Exum just isn't very skilled yet. He has a lot of natural instincts/talent, but not a lot of skills.
 
I think Lavine is the better prospect, but to be fair he's had the benefit of playing AAU ball and one year of big time collegiate hoops. Exum hasn't had that luxury. Lavine IMO is the superior athlete, better dribbler and has the edge in shooting. Exum just has the court vision over Lavine.

This is just ridiculous. AAU ball is also a disadvantage for 99.9% of the players in terms of skillset. Useless Isos that you'll never execute in the pros.
 
Exum is a different player. I think everyone will be more than happy with Exum about 18 months from now.

Lavine is a good player, like a more athletic Kevin Martin, but I wouldn't trade Exum for Lavine.
 
Both of them have stuff the other will never have. But I think the stuff Exum has will be more conducive to winning games in the long run.
 
Exum seems to only want to fit into the system when on the court. He has so many opportunities to take dudes off the dribble but always always cedes to someone else.

I don't know if that's been told to him or if he's timid. I'm confident Exum will be the better player out of the two in a few years time.
 
This is just ridiculous. AAU ball is also a disadvantage for 99.9% of the players in terms of skillset. Useless Isos that you'll never execute in the pros.

The benefit of AAU is he's been facing guys that's NBA good almost his whole career, while Exum has not. There Lavine adjustment to the talent level isn't as steep as Exum and his confidence level is likely much higher.
 
I'm pretty sure Exum can have a similar night even though he is raw and young. We just need Trey Burke to get injured so that there is no other option but to play Exum a lot of minutes. That's what it took for Lavine to have this kind of game. He needed both Rubio and Mo Williams to get injured. If those two didn't get injured you would have never seen a game like this from Lavine, even though he is fully capable of it.

So let me get this striaght Exum is too passive to be aggressive against other teams bench players. While playing on a team with a terrible bench therefore he should have a green light, but instead is overly passive anyways. Yet some how playing against starters while also playing with the starters who themselves will be looking to be aggresive is going to help Exum some how be less passive? This seem counterintuitive logically.
 
The benefit of AAU is he's been facing guys that's NBA good almost his whole career, while Exum has not. There Lavine adjustment to the talent level isn't as steep as Exum and his confidence level is likely much higher.

For every Durant who can build confidence and whose body advantage translates to the NBA there are 5 OJ Mayo, whose egos are overinflated and career ceilings really destroyed because they would have needed guidance and needed to fully absorb every little piece they could possibly grasp about basketball.

Take Paul George. He wasn't highly recruited, he wasn't the highlight of his AAU team. So he never got that Brandon Jennings entourage treatment.
Have you ever heard that dude speak? He's a friggin numbnut. He was lucky he got the guidance of Larry Bird and was a late bloomer. If he's exploding in 8th grade, I promise you he's never developing lock down defense and he Starburies his way out of the league over the course of his rookie contract.

And that's the issue I take with glorified pickup basketball. These Eurocamps in Treviso that Exum visited annually over the summer and the U18 worldcups and stuff. He's meeting talent there. A lot of guys will play more successful professional basketball than AAU trainwrecks in Europe for a decade.

And if that's not clear enough:
For every Einstein who is a pioneer and has a unique way of learning, there are 100 other very intelligent students that need the best possible education to become skilled in their respective field of expertise.
You don't need LeBron, Kobe, MJ, Shaq, Magic to win the NBA.
Tim Duncan who is just tall and not AAU lobotomized is enough to build a dynasty. And not surprisingly he's playing with players who in majority are from outside the USA...

But I respect everyone's choice. If you're into watching a 5 min dunk only highlight reel of 16 year olds while getting more and more convinced that that's the next big thing, so be it.
 
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