King gives up: #7 and Jimmer
for
Jazz's #14 and #21
Who says no?
for
Jazz's #14 and #21
Who says no?
Deal close for Houston's Robinson (Jazz possibly in the mix)
- Thread starter MoWillsap
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Me. Watching Jimmer come to ESA twice a season is painful enough, I don't want 41 games of it.
If I'm Lindsey and I think either Burke/McCollum are legit, I'd roll the dice.
Jimmer would benefit from playing with our front court heavy offense.
A-Train (old)
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I want the Jazz to trade #14 and #21 for #7, draft McCollum and call it a day.
Well then you'd love my trade, which also gives you a free Jimmer.
A-Train (old)
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Yeah, I do love it. I would give up #14, #21, #46 for #7, and Jimmer!
blackham9258
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Its interesting that the rumor includes the Jazz and 3 teams with higher picks than the Jazz. With the exception of Atlanta who probably is going all overseas guys to be able to offer max contracts to Howard/CP3 it looks like this leak is coming from Houston who may be trying to convince the Jazz to give up #14 instead of the #21 they have offered.
I just can't see any of the other teams taking on that contract... I mean really... OKC can't, Philly needs a center and doesn't have the space unless they release their restricted fa's. I think all of this is Houston trying to convince the Jazz to give up the higher of their two picks.
I hope this is the case and I think #21 is as good as this gets for Houston and it will go down on draft night once the Rockets realize that a player they want is going to be there at 21.
If the Jazz go with Schroeder or any other PG that slips at #14 I bet that a deal is in the works at #21.
I just can't see any of the other teams taking on that contract... I mean really... OKC can't, Philly needs a center and doesn't have the space unless they release their restricted fa's. I think all of this is Houston trying to convince the Jazz to give up the higher of their two picks.
I hope this is the case and I think #21 is as good as this gets for Houston and it will go down on draft night once the Rockets realize that a player they want is going to be there at 21.
If the Jazz go with Schroeder or any other PG that slips at #14 I bet that a deal is in the works at #21.
Twin Towers
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Rather not have 2 inexperienced point guards.
A rookie with Jimmer would not be good. Rather have a veteran back up the rookie or vice versa. Jimmer wold be pointless to have unless they just don't want his contract.
I would argue if we have Burke, Tinsley and Jimmer, that's a decent line up.
Let's think about this.
- Start Tinsley 1st half of the season, Burke off the bench to learn the ropes. Burke played 2 years at college, so I think he's more than ready to come off the bench.
- Then let Burke start just before the All Star break when we feel he is ready, then Tinsley is 1st off the bench.
- Jimmer would do more or less when he did when he's with the Kings, so he'll just fill in when someone gets injured. Once Tinsley is backing up Burke, hopefully he'll have more time to mentor Jimmer, get him up to speed mentally to play in the NBA.
Twin Towers
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Sounds pointless to have Jimmer a the 3rd string. Kings are trying to get a late lottery pick. I think they will have to eventually go for a 2nd round. I don't think Jimmer is worth the 21st pick.
And with our cap space I would hope we can get a better PG than Tinsley............ We can find somebody better than that to start. Get a better Veteran on a 2-3 year deal.
trigg3r
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Agreed. It will make me sick if we trade the 21st for Jimmer. Seriously, what does he bring to the table? He's a 1 dimensional player and that dimension hasn't been all that great so far.
Twin Towers
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If we draft Trey Burke I would go after these veterans
Will Bynum
Beno Udrih
Keyon Dooling
Billups
C.J. Watson
I know Tinsley has the upper hand because of Corbin. But I would rather have Tinsley being the 3rd string and a player coach.
Sign one of these guys who have a little more ability physically than him. Whether its shooting or athletic ability.
Will Bynum
Beno Udrih
Keyon Dooling
Billups
C.J. Watson
I know Tinsley has the upper hand because of Corbin. But I would rather have Tinsley being the 3rd string and a player coach.
Sign one of these guys who have a little more ability physically than him. Whether its shooting or athletic ability.
Twin Towers
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I think Jimmer can be a really good role player on a team with a legit PG. Like behind Tony Parker or D-Will or Chris Paul etc Some place where he will only play 15 minutes a game and just be a spark. Spurs would be a great fit for him.
I don't think he fits with us. And I don't want the drama that will come with him.
Well I don't love Jimmer neither but it seems Kings would throw him in there just to get a deal done.
Would you rather do #14 and #21 for #7 instead? Or have Jimmer as a throw in as well?
BENTLEY
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Rather than trade the 21 pick for T-Rob or Jimmer I'd prefer seeing if Gobert or Giannis or Shroeder falls there or even grab Withey @ 21.
Jimmer has no value right now. Especially to the Kings. Don't give anything more than a second rounder for him - if that. If Jazz want him just wait and get him for free when his contract's up and he's desperate for a job. Same goes for T-Rob. Kings and Rockets are selling so low so the price should match.
I'm more intrigued by the possibility of upside falling there to 21, or just grab Withey - who's a great 3rd big (and an actual C).
Jimmer has no value right now. Especially to the Kings. Don't give anything more than a second rounder for him - if that. If Jazz want him just wait and get him for free when his contract's up and he's desperate for a job. Same goes for T-Rob. Kings and Rockets are selling so low so the price should match.
I'm more intrigued by the possibility of upside falling there to 21, or just grab Withey - who's a great 3rd big (and an actual C).
Twin Towers
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Rumors show it won't be a throw in from what I have read but they could be wrong.
I honestly don't even want Jimmer. Would be too big of a distraction. The same way Tebow is. Good guys but the media would create problems and drama.
If I was another team I would take Jimmer so maybe a 3 team trade? Just being here in Utah the media would create problems.
Also I don't want to trade the 21st at all if it can hurt our chances of moving up in the draft. I want Trey Burke. If we cannot get Trey Burke than stay put.
Stay away from MCW or the Centers at that spot. Too high to draft a big man who will never play behind Kanter and Favors. If its the best player available trade down.
Guys.. the main idea is to get Trey Burke.
NOT JIMMER.
TREY BURKE.
The gist of the trade is really #14 + #21 for TREY BURKE. But obviously if we can grab JIMMER as well so be it.
But the idea is to get TREY BURKE.
David Stern
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I feel like the idea that Jimmer being compared to Tim tebow is ridiculous. It would bring a lot of local media coverage at the beginning of camp, but it would quickly die down.
Sneakers
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Wishful thinking at best.
Twin Towers
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If we have to take Jimmer than yes I am all for it. But I would trade him right away from a 2nd round draft pick or a veteran.
I have a feeling that the Hornets are going to take Burke at 6. Frustrating but I think that is going to happen. And the Hornets have no use for Alec Burks because of Eric Gordon. And I don't think they will accept our 2 picks to move up. So I think we might be out of luck either way. Unless he drops which I really really am praying for.
Also I don't think CJ is worth trading up for, but I have a feeling that is what we are trying to do.