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Game Thread Dec 26, 2022 06:00PM MT: Jazz at Spurs

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As much as i hate rudy gay, simone hasn't played well to force hardy to play him in gays place. Still think he should go with Simone anyways cause Gay in gone as soon as possible no matter what where as if Simone can get it together and play well he could be signed to another deal.
Both have been bad though. Maybe when KO is healthy Hardy should shorten the rotation and play neither guy. Idk. Just hate watching Gay out on the court. He is no fun.
 
fishonjazz said:
Whats even dumber is not playing him when he is foul trouble. He ended the game with only 4 fouls. So the only reason his minutes were limited is because the coach chose to put him on the bench. Not due to fouls. Not really Hardys fault though because its simply part of a coaches programming that they think they have to remove a player who is in foul "trouble". They dont though.
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He got benched cuz he was playing like ****
 
fishonjazz said:
As much as i hate rudy gay, simone hasn't played well to force hardy to play him in gays place. Still think he should go with Simone anyways cause Gay in gone as soon as possible no matter what where as if Simone can get it together and play well he could be signed to another deal.
Both have been bad though. Maybe when KO is healthy Hardy should shorten the rotation and play neither guy. Idk. Just hate watching Gay out on the court. He is no fun.
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I agree and was going to post something similar. I think that spot is our weakest at the moment.
 
Kessler didn’t play very well last night. In foul trouble and didn’t catch a couple of passes that would have been easy layups or dunks. I only saw the angle from the TV so maybe one or two weren’t his fault but it seemed like he should have caught all of them. Probably wasn’t expecting Clarkson to pass it to him multiple times though lol.
 
Elizah Huge said:
I agree and was going to post something similar. I think that spot is our weakest at the moment.
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It is definitely our weak link but when you have a season with no expectations like we have it makes more sense to force feed Simone minutes than give any minutes to Gay. Gay has no future here and he is not going to build any trade value by playing. The guy that actually made the most sense for us all along was Stanley Johnson but of course we waived him instead of Gay or Bolmaro. Johnson has looked pretty good for the spurs since being picked up.
 
sip said:
It is definitely our weak link but when you have a season with no expectations like we have it makes more sense to force feed Simone minutes than give any minutes to Gay. Gay has no future here and he is not going to build any trade value by playing. The guy that actually made the most sense for us all along was Stanley Johnson but of course we waived him instead of Gay or Bolmaro. Johnson has looked pretty good for the spurs since being picked up.
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No expectations? Lmfao. Are you 4 months behind the rest of the world?
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
No expectations? Lmfao. Are you 4 months behind the rest of the world?
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No expectations! Not even a troll like you can act like Gay contributes to winning in any way so it makes sense to play Simone over him 100 times out of 100.
 
Why is it that Hardy plays Rudy Gay? I can’t understand it. Is it that he respects him as a veteran player (Hardy being a couple of years younger too)? Age catches up every player at some point. And it doesn’t look like Rudy is enjoying the game anymore, at least not like he used to. We have young guys who we need to evaluate and develop. Like last night, when Kessler had foul trouble and we had difficulty defending the rim, I would’ve liked to see Dok get Rudy’s minutes (and maybe give some of his minutes to Simone and THT as well in some lineups). Rudy played over 15 minutes and had 0 points. In tight games these things matter, can make a difference between winning and losing.
 
underdog said:
Why is it that Hardy plays Rudy Gay? I can’t understand it. Is it that he respects him as a veteran player (Hardy being a couple of years younger too)? Age catches up every player at some point. And it doesn’t look like Rudy is enjoying the game anymore, at least not like he used to. We have young guys who we need to evaluate and develop. Like last night, when Kessler had foul trouble and we had difficulty defending the rim, I would’ve liked to see Dok get Rudy’s minutes (and maybe give some of his minutes to Simone and THT as well in some lineups). Rudy played over 15 minutes and had 0 points. In tight games these things matter, can make a difference between winning and losing.
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The biggest problem is we don’t really have anyone who is a better option off the bench. Simone has been terrible and THT ****ing sucks. Who else could fill in that role? Dok is a backup center.
 
Outside of Simone we are severely lacking in bigger 6'-8" wings on the roster. Gay has lost his athleticism but he's still a better defender than Fontecchio. Simone ranks bottom 3 in the entire league in defense. Sure I'd prefer to give those minutes to Agbaji but he wasn't exactly killing it in the G league not to mention he's another smaller 6'-5 wing (the same size as NAW, Beasley, JC).

Maybe Gay's minutes disappear once Olynyk is back but it still doesn't solve the problem with our lack of a 2 way athletic wing with size that can defend and score a little bit. Maybe THT with his wingspan could've solved some issues but he has been mostly horrific when given minutes.
 
sip said:
No expectations! Not even a troll like you can act like Gay contributes to winning in any way so it makes sense to play Simone over him 100 times out of 100.
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It might be a stretch to say Gay contributes to winning (though the on/off disagrees) but Simone probably contributes to losing more than Gay does.

I'd rather be a no expectations tanking team, but that just isnt the current state of affairs.
 
Elizah Huge said:
I agree and was going to post something similar. I think that spot is our weakest at the moment.
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The thing is that Simone cannot get into rythm with just few minutes per game. He was very productive in eurobasket and if given a chance to shake off the rust I do think he would be an ok player for the Jazz. But as it is, he isn't bringing much to the table.
 
Mr. T said:
The thing is that Simone cannot get into rythm with just few minutes per game. He was very productive in eurobasket and if given a chance to shake off the rust I do think he would be an ok player for the Jazz. But as it is, he isn't bringing much to the table.
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He just seems super lost on both sides of the ball.
 
Mr. T said:
The thing is that Simone cannot get into rythm with just few minutes per game. He was very productive in eurobasket and if given a chance to shake off the rust I do think he would be an ok player for the Jazz.
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I tend to agree. Simone is obviously trying to "make the most" of his minutes when he gets them - meaning that he's launching hair trigger shots, gambling for steals and generally playing a nervous, spazzed-out brand of basketball. I'm afraid it's just making him look worse than he really is.

I don't think his ceiling as an NBA player is very high at all, but right now we're kind of wasting him.
 
Mr. T said:
The thing is that Simone cannot get into rythm with just few minutes per game. He was very productive in eurobasket and if given a chance to shake off the rust I do think he would be an ok player for the Jazz. But as it is, he isn't bringing much to the table.
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Agree. It's not easy for these guys to come out and play well when they have mostly just been sitting on the bench. We don’t really know what they can do before we've seen them play for a longer period of time. A lot of us thought NAW can’t shoot or play, but now we know him a little better. And as it was with him, it’s usually only after injuries these guys may get a chance to play enough to get comfortable.
 
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