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Game Thread Dec 27, 2021 06:30PM MT: Jazz at Spurs

Added to Calendar: 12-27-21

Phoenix lost to Memphis tonight. We are officially 2 games out of the 2 seed and 3 out of the 1 seed.
Our head to heads against Phoenix and GSW will determine a lot. However, I believe they’ll be the kind of games we get destroyed (like how we were swept by Phoenix last year) and certain influencers will talk like the regular season bad showings are meaningless in predicting potential playoff matchup.
 
Can you imagine Quin sticking with Butler if he was playing like Forrest? JB was getting those minutes early and wasn’t great… I mean he’s a rookie… Quin gave him the hook so damn fast.
Something must be going on behind the scenes. Right now he is as much use to us as Dok, Hughes and Oni.
 
Spurs cut it to single digits against our scrubs before Quin bring the starters back in but by then Spurs already got the momentum going
Paschall and Hughes had less than 1 minute each. Forrest had 19 minutes so he was in the rotation. Ingles had back to back crap plays and we had several defensive lapses. Unless you consider Ingles a scrub the scrubs most definitely were not responsible for the melt down.
 
Our head to heads against Phoenix and GSW will determine a lot. However, I believe they’ll be the kind of games we get destroyed (like how we were swept by Phoenix last year) and certain influencers will talk like the regular season bad showings are meaningless in predicting potential playoff matchup.
We will win a few of those games but we need to actually win the series with those teams to get to 1. Basically if we don’t get some injury luck it is likely a futile effort.
 
Paschall and Hughes had less than 1 minute each. Forrest had 19 minutes so he was in the rotation. Ingles had back to back crap plays and we had several defensive lapses. Unless you consider Ingles a scrub the scrubs most definitely were not responsible for the melt down.
Both Paschall and Hughes were -6 in the "less than 1 minute" you mentioned. pretty much explains it all.
 
Both Paschall and Hughes were -6 in the "less than 1 minute" you mentioned. pretty much explains it all.
They singlehandedly caused Joe to have 2 turnovers in the crucial stretch. Gotcha. They got on the floor, the main guys with them **** the bed and we were outscored by 6 in that time. You do know how +/- works right?
 
Portland is going to lose tonight at home so they should have a bounce back game against us on Wednesday. I think this is a scheduled loss.
 
Portland is going to lose tonight at home so they should have a bounce back game against us on Wednesday. I think this is a scheduled loss.
Nah… Portland sucks. They been staying down… no bounce. Think Nurkic and Roco are in protocols… don’t think CJ is back. Team is trash.
 
Our head to heads against Phoenix and GSW will determine a lot. However, I believe they’ll be the kind of games we get destroyed (like how we were swept by Phoenix last year) and certain influencers will talk like the regular season bad showings are meaningless in predicting potential playoff matchup.

H2H regular season games are pretty much are meaningless in predicting playoff matchups.
 
H2H regular season games are pretty much are meaningless in predicting playoff matchups.
Ah, so watching Phoenix exploit us last year very specifically with CP/DB midrange and/or Ayton lobs, accompanied by our collapses and inability to hang in close games and OTs in highly anticipated games doesn’t have any relevance to how we’d play them in the post-season? That’s a huge relief because here I’ve been complaining about all those weaknesses that we haven’t / won’t / can’t address and now that I know they’re meaningless helps me breath a sigh of relief and can be reassured by our HISTORIC offense.

Go team.
 
True but Portland sucks butt.
We could lose to the Washington Generals. That wouldn’t even be the worst part. The worst part is the rationalization and normalization of “oh, yeah… you don’t know any of the guys on the Generals so it’s soooo hard to game plan for that. And the Generals are going to get up and play their A game against a great NBA squad. These games happen all the time to great teams. I mean, it’s expected. This is nothing to worry about. I’m more worried about whether or not my toast will be dry tomorrow.”
 
We could lose to the Washington Generals. That wouldn’t even be the worst part. The worst part is the rationalization and normalization of “oh, yeah… you don’t know any of the guys on the Generals so it’s soooo hard to game plan for that. And the Generals are going to get up and play their A game against a great NBA squad. These games happen all the time to great teams. I mean, it’s expected. This is nothing to worry about. I’m more worried about whether or not my toast will be dry tomorrow.”
I think Portland is about to shut up shop… who knows… dame could go bonkers… I don’t see porty as a “bounce back” scenario. I think I could see us missing shots and having a low energy stinker… a pat yourself on the back narrative “ hey all you want is a split… winning on the road is tough… mission accomplished”.

I think we played well tonight. It really helped that they missed a lot too… thought we were mostly focused… some rough officiating too.
 
Ah, so watching Phoenix exploit us last year very specifically with CP/DB midrange and/or Ayton lobs, accompanied by our collapses and inability to hang in close games and OTs in highly anticipated games doesn’t have any relevance to how we’d play them in the post-season? That’s a huge relief because here I’ve been complaining about all those weaknesses that we haven’t / won’t / can’t address and now that I know they’re meaningless helps me breath a sigh of relief and can be reassured by our HISTORIC offense.

Go team.

You see, your concerns aren’t built off of 2 games against the Suns (we had a bunch of people out the last game). They’re built over a long period of time and that’s why they’re legitimate. They’re not going to go away if we happen to win.

Anything can happen in a few games, especially in the regular season. If the Jazz happen to beat the Warriors or the Suns, it’s not really going to change my opinion on things. I don’t think we’re learning anything about the Jazz and the Suns in particular. Almost the exact same rosters and neither team has changed how they play. We’re not going to learn anything about these teams and definitely not if we’re just looking at results.

Warriors have a lot of changes and it’ll be interesting to see how the teams play. But you can guarantee that whatever the Warriors game plan is now will be much less detailed than it will be with proper planning/personnel in a playoff series.

This is all without mentioning the covid situation.
 
Nice to see us string together some stops this game. I do enjoy watching actual effort on Defense. I'm not sure why the Jazz don't think defensive effort is important at home?
 
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