BluesRocker
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Funny. It's a little better. But now I picture you Asian.
Your last one felt like I was being stared down by a fat gangster
Derrick Favors by the numbers
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Funny. It's a little better. But now I picture you Asian.
Your last one felt like I was being stared down by a fat gangster
vslice02
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There isn't a more laughable myth on Jazzfans right now than the one that "Corbin is just like Sloan" and "Sloan always played vets over rookies," Funny the effect time has on people's minds.
...but back to the original topic...
Favors has a change to be a top-5 defensive big in the league - he's that good. He could not improve his offensive game one more ounce and I think he would still average a double-double as a starting PF/C functioning as a dive-man who crashes the boards.
If he develops into a competent (not necessarily a go-to scorer but a guy who can consistently score on the block) he'll be an elite player.
Skill-wise, he's got a left-shoulder jump hook and a right-shoulder turnaround that is still a work in progress - but something he's trying to incorprate into his game. Lately on the left block we've seen an aggressive swing through and baseline drive which will open up that face-up 12-foot jumpshot if he develops it. He's got 2-3 post moves that could make him a great player if he develops them. Instead of trying to get better at everything in the offseason, I'd like to see him focus on one move (ideally his left-shoulder jump hook), and work on it to the point it becomes his go-to move.
NotDeadYet
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Just like many other young NBAers, Favors has tons of physical skills, but lacks the FOCUS*to play at*a*CONSISTANT level. Defensively, he has games where he's plagued by silly fouls. Offensively, he's lacking the consistant post moves he needs to be an elite player. The problem with using Jefferson off the bench is who's my post player now? Millsap is too small to be consistant from the post, and Favors lacks the moves.
Just gotta be patient and let these young pups grow...
Just gotta be patient and let these young pups grow...
GVC
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What does this even mean? Please explain why a team needs a good back to the basket player to be successful.
This is the best post of the thread.
But seriously, when nerd tells me that I'm wrong, I'll actually listen. When GVC and nerd tell me I'm wrong, then I'm probably very wrong.
I guess there's a first time for everything, though. Favors blows.
How about I tell you you're wrong .. and maybe you feel redeemed?
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Best post in the thread? On the surface, I won't argue with his line of thinking. He's correct. But his comparison to Kwame is terrible. In Brown's second season, he played 22.2 minutes a game, or one more minute than Favors' 21.2 minutes this year. However, Brown averaged just 7.4 points per game on 44.6% from the floor which is freakin beyond awful for a big. He added 5.3 rebounds and 1.0 blocks. Meanwhile, Favors in 21.2 minutes averaged 6.5 rebounds, 8.8 points and 49.9% from the floor. The latter leaves a lot to be desired but still, along with the numbers, it blows Kwame's numbers away. And the rebounding specifically is probably even more impressive when you consider the other strong rebounders we have around Favors like Kanter, Millsap, and Jefferson. I doubt the Wiz had a stable like that, taking boards away from Brown at times.
green
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This is why I honestly believe that if the Jazz would have amnestied Jefferson before last season, their record would be the same. There were games Jefferson won for us, but there at least as many games that he lost for us.
10/10
Sig-Worthy.
I don't think Trout is that far off. Favors really hasn't shown the offensive ability to be an All-Star yet.
I would bet he will make an All-Defensive team before he makes the All-Star team.
Wait, wait, wait... Are you angry with me because I said Koonter isn't as good as I had hoped and thought? Anyone that isn't from your little armpit of the world agrees. Once he learns to not bring the ball down to his knees before he jumps -- EVERY TIME -- and that an up n' under is a great move, but not -- EVERY TIME -- then let's chat. I'm thinking he'll be wearing a 76'ers jersey by this point, so we won't have the chance to talk it out.
Actually I'm on Favors subject.
Even worse.
OK, I tried to give you a chance and I reread these quotes. But no I can't agree with you, not in this world.
jazzfan1971
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Favors needs some easy buckets. Fast break, PnR, drop offs.
He's not getting much of any of that right now. Not sure if that's Corbin's or Harris' fault. But, I believe he'd benefit greatly from more running and more PnR. Oh, and a PG that could penetrate the lane and drop off the ball for an easy dunk now and then.
He's not at a point in his development where you can just dump the ball off to him in the low block and expect him to get you points with good efficiency. Maybe he will be one day, maybe he won't, but I think if we ran more, if we PnR more his offensive stats would improve and folks would think he's a better player.
As long as we're running the 'walk the ball up the court and give the ball to Jefferson on the low block and watch' offense Favors is going to struggle to impress.
He's not getting much of any of that right now. Not sure if that's Corbin's or Harris' fault. But, I believe he'd benefit greatly from more running and more PnR. Oh, and a PG that could penetrate the lane and drop off the ball for an easy dunk now and then.
He's not at a point in his development where you can just dump the ball off to him in the low block and expect him to get you points with good efficiency. Maybe he will be one day, maybe he won't, but I think if we ran more, if we PnR more his offensive stats would improve and folks would think he's a better player.
As long as we're running the 'walk the ball up the court and give the ball to Jefferson on the low block and watch' offense Favors is going to struggle to impress.
I know, right? It's literally been weeks since I've seen Favors have a good game.