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Derrick Favors ceiling.

I dont think we can predict where his ceiling will be yet. This kid is only 20 so if he can stay healthy and hungry sky is the limit. He is going to be a superstar. If we can draft or pick up one more superstar the Jazz have a very bright future.
 
Jarron Collins on defense and Francisco Elson on offense. Derrick will take a few charges in the lane and shoot when absolutely necessary - i.e. when CJ, Raja and Harris aren't chucking them up.


Seriously, I think Favors will average a double-double this year; let's put him down for 15/10 with 2 blocks. Next season I could see him become a 20/12 player. It's really to early to say. What we do know is guys who come into the league and WORK usually succeed (e.g. Matthews and Millsap), while others can have great tools and/or size but jackpot around and are big disappointments (e.g. Ostertag). I just hope Favors' development mirrors that of Millsap - i.e. every year he's able to add 1-2 new things to his arsenal to go along with the high effort and rebounding.
 
Mcdyess before his knee injuries

Probably a better comparison than Stoudamire, who plays no D. In his short prime Mcdyess was a terror on both ends of the court. He then suffered a patellar tendon tear, which is worse for athletes than an ACL. Re-injured it again quickly after returning and was pretty much a role player from there on out. For those to young to remember a prime Mcdyess....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQC5g7yezgs
 
Probably a better comparison than Stoudamire, who plays no D. In his short prime Mcdyess was a terror on both ends of the court. He then suffered a patellar tendon tear, which is worse for athletes than an ACL. Re-injured it again quickly after returning and was pretty much a role player from there on out. For those to young to remember a prime Mcdyess....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQC5g7yezgs

Wow! It's so hard to remember Mcdyess being that crazy athletic. But the again, I'm only 26 and saw mostly the good mid-range shooting role player Mcdyess.
Let's hope Favors can throw down some dunks and insane blocks like that soon :-)

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I think he will average the first quintuple double for a season in the history of the NBA.
 
Immediately after the trade I used the "Jermaine O'Neal in his prime" comparison/ceilling which I think is still a pretty valid comparison - although after seeing him play in March/April and then last night - it's obvious Favors is more coordinated and skilled offensively than O'Neal was as a 19-20 year-old - which imo should result in becoming a more efficient offensive player than JO (who often used bad footwork, took contested shots and shot a lower % than he should have). I love that left-shoulder jump hook that looks like is becoming his go-to move from either block. Forget the mid-range jumpers for now, if Favors can deliver that jumphook consistently he'll be everything we hope and more.

IMO McDyess was more of a finesse 4 who really excelled not only on the break but facing up to the basket and either shooting the mid-range jumper or putting it on the floor and blowing by you. I think Favors has incredible athleticism for a man his size, but I don't think he's as quick or explosive as Antonio pre-injury.

The thing I really love about Favors is his potential as a defensive player - not only defending the lowpost and as a weakside shotblocker, but with his combination of size and mobility to hedge and stepout when defending screen-roll.
 
From Steve Luhm's twitter "Don't know what will happen with Derrick Favors, but when the Jazz decided Karl Malone was ready, they traded Adrian Dantley."

At this point, I'm ready to see Okur/Jefferson/Bell leave sooner rather than later.
Or two of those will go away in an estimated 66 games.

(Maybe the jazz might want to get something out of them.)
 
Locke made this comment last night "He is scoring without a go to move, without really any move at all."

I think Favors has a very high ceiling, but I do think he needs to develop some reliable moves to reach that.

I liked when he came off the curl, he should have thrown it down though!
 
Favors is an excellent garbage guy with a knack for finding open spots for offensive put backs. He'll have good enough numbers from that and his defense alone (which will only improve). If he adds any offensive prowess whatsoever then I'll be thrilled with him.


I like and dislike the Jermain O'Neal comparison. O'Neal is one of the select few All Stars who didn't do anything for multiple years and then suddenly blew up. Favors fits that because he didn't break out his rookie year like you'd expect your typical All Star in the making to. That's not exactly the model that pans out more often than not. Then again, Favors could have had a Charlie Villanueva type rookie year only to blah thereafter.


I see 17/11/2.5 as a floor in his prime.
 
Duncan, it sounds insane but I think their games are pretty similar.

While Duncan wasn't an insane athlete coming out of college, he was well above average for a guy his size. Same thing with Favors, he doesn't have Amare's hops or Dwight's coordination, but he has more than enough to dominate with the right intangibles.

Both have a similar on court demeanor, quiet, hard working, not looking for glitz and glamour, more worried about contributing.

Duncan is such a tough comparison because he stayed in college for 4 years and perfected his fundamentals, Favors is going to have to do it in the NBA. I do think if Favors had stayed in college he would have been the consensus top pick last year, as well as this year and next, just as Duncan was while he was in college. Duncan was a 9/9 guy his freshman year, Derrick was 12/8.

Duncan's second year in the NBA he averaged 40 minutes a game and got 17 shot attempts. With a similar opportunity I could easily see Favors putting up 21/11 like Duncan did.

I know it's a very hopeful comparison, but if Favors were to reach his full ceiling, I think he could have a few seasons similar to Duncan's prime given his athletic ability and potential.
 
35/15/5/5/6
delusional........

If he did this he would be averaging a 5/5...........

Anyway, physically he has no ceiling, he has the perfect nba body for a big. The only limiter he has would be mental, and it looks like that's coming around.
 
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