Diamond in the Rough: 2014 Draft

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

2011 draft was pretty average, I would probably rank them:

1. Kyrie
2. Faried
3. Klay
4. Kanter
5. Burks/Kawhai

I think --

Kyrie
Kanter/Valanciunas
K. Thompson
Burks
Kawhai
T. Thompson

 

[The Midnight]

Vonleh definitely seems to be grouped in the top 8, but I wouldn't be able to get excited about that pick. I just wouldn't.

Exactly.


He's just one of those "going through the motion" type pick IMO. He's certainly got a lot of potential, but I just don't see him having an elite skill at the next level.


To me he's kinda like the "Thomas Robinson" of the 2012 pick. Seems like a safe pick at the time, but just a bit 'meh' at the end of the day.

 

[SojoDave]

Dougie McBuckets. Next years rookie of the year. He doesn't have sensational athleticism, but the dude can shoot from any where and can score in the NBA.

 

[spycam1]

Exactly.


He's just one of those "going through the motion" type pick IMO. He's certainly got a lot of potential, but I just don't see him having an elite skill at the next level.


To me he's kinda like the "Thomas Robinson" of the 2012 pick. Seems like a safe pick at the time, but just a bit 'meh' at the end of the day.

I'd say rebounding is an elite skill he has. He's either 1st or 2nd in the NCAA in rebounds per minute.

 

[The Midnight]

I don't see it.

What I like the most about his shooting is he's a great catch and shoot, as well as pull-up off the dribble player.

 

[spycam1]

My "Diamond n da Ruff" nominations:

-Kyle Anderson
-STAUSKAS
-Zach LaVine
-McD
-Saric
-Nurkic

Prob others, but that's who immediately comes to mind.

 

[The Midnight]

My "Diamond n da Ruff" nominations:

-Kyle Anderson
-STAUSKAS
-Zach LaVine
-McD
-Saric
-Nurkic

Prob others, but that's who immediately comes to mind.

Is LaVine entering the draft? Didn't think so right?

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

If I were the Jazz and picking 8th, I would see if I could trade up a couple spots.

 

[Sexual Favors]

Zach Lavine, Elfrid Payton, Noah Vinleh, Chris Walker, etc. all have some wow factor to their game, but something else that holds you back from saying they're sure things.

If we end up 8th, Jazz better not pick safe. We need upgrades at the point, and wing positions the most.

 

[seattlejazzfan]

For all of you picking Klay over Burks, you are either letting his game against the Jazz last night cloud your judgment or you simply aren't paying attention.
Burks PER is a full 2 points higher than KT, and AB is 22, while Thompson is 24.


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[bjunior]

let's just trade burke for stauskas or a pick to get him

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

If we're really stuck picking 8th, I think we should get a shooter, I mean a real shooter--McBuckets, Stauskas, Harris...

What's the story on Mario Hezonja?

 

[The Midnight]

Zach Lavine, Elfrid Payton, Noah Vinleh, Chris Walker, etc. all have some wow factor to their game, but something else that holds you back from saying they're sure things.

If we end up 8th, Jazz better not pick safe. We need upgrades at the point, and wing positions the most.

Agreed.


As was Larry Bird's strategy when he picked Paul George.

 

[The Midnight]

If I were the Jazz and picking 8th, I would see if I could trade up a couple spots.

It's gonna be hard to do that this year if the GSW pick lands in the mid 20's.

 

[The Midnight]

If we're really stuck picking 8th, I think we should get a shooter, I mean a real shooter--McBuckets, Stauskas, Harris...

What's the story on Mario Hezonja?

Agreed.


I would lean towards Stauskas because I think he would translation better to the NBA. McBuckets just seems too "heavy" to be in the NBA at the SF spot.

 

[Tony]

Michael Frazier, Jerami Grant, K.J. McDaniels, James Young

 

[Jazz4ever]

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My picks would be:

- Kyle Anderson (great 3pt shooter, playmaker, feel for the game)
Not a good fit. His skills would be too redundant to Hayward and Burke. We need a guy who can score 16-20 ppg.
- Aaron Harrison (clutch genes)
If he does it again tonight I'm down, otherwise would pass and take my chance he's there with the GS pick.
- Nickkkk Stauskus (knock-down shooter)
A reach but he brings two things the Jazz need. Shooting and some swag.
- Willie Cauley-Stein (true 7 footer, athletic pivot/shot-blocker)
Just not a good enough center specimen to pick with Favors and Gobert on board.

Thoughts????

Vonleh is probably the safest choice at 8. You get a physical specimen similar to Favors that is a little more PF oriented with a possible 3 point shot. Stauskas would be next on the list.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

let's just trade burke for stauskas or a pick to get him

Burke put up 24 pts and 15 assists last night. We haven't had a point guard who can do that since DWill left. Not sure if DWill ever did that as a rookie.

 

[The Midnight]

Vonleh is probably the safest choice at 8. You get a physical specimen similar to Favors that is a little more PF oriented with a possible 3 point shot. Stauskas would be next on the list.

Yeah pretty good analysis overall.


If in the next 2-3 years the following happens:

Vonleh = Taj Gibson

Stauskus = Klay Thompson


Who would you take? I think that's pretty even, but I would go with the Klay Thompson comparison. Better fit for our team, great shooter is very important now in the NBA. His stroke seems legit and he's been consistent now with the 3pter 2 years in a row (unlike Hayward with his sophomore year at Butler where his shooting dipped).

 

[The Midnight]

Burke put up 24 pts and 15 assists last night. We haven't had a point guard who can do that since DWill left. Not sure if DWill ever did that as a rookie.

Agreed. Burke is a keeper.