Did Gordon Ever Call Gail?

[Deleted member 5000]

I'm a big forgiveness guy... so I'm very impressed most have forgiven Dwill

I though have not. Too much nostalgia with Sloan - Raja claimed Dwill only mirrored the play that was called in the Chicago game before the half, ok ok.. but It happened more than that one time didn't it? So screw him I haven't forgiven him. Can you imagine Hood going rogue not running the plays Quin called then management just looked the other way?

 

[#UJ4ever]

Why do you hate Polynice? Also, Ostertag was perhaps frustrating from a fans' perspective, but he never had any bad interactions with fans or trashed the franchise in any other way than being lazy.

Amaechi for sure. Actually, he's more pathetic than he is hate-able. Anderson stung for a while but I'm way over that. I always thought he looked like Smokey from The PJs.

Why? He had a really terrific second stint with us.

For me personally hate is too strong of a word for any of them, except as a fan it is fun to hate on players that have wronged my team. I think that there are many of these players that either intentionally or not, really hurt Jazz nation with their actions or lack there of. In Ostertag's case he took a lot of time off where he didn't really even try to put in the effort and his contract was way bigger than he was. Some might feel the same about Kirlenko but I feel that he was never used correctly with the Jazz except maybe the one year he played power forward. Polynice did a lot of really dumb things off the court as well as just not being very good on the court. Amechi was just about the money and was an a$$ so good mention on him. I don't think Shandon really did anything wrong and I'm not sure why Crotty would be hated or Korver.

 

[Jazz Spazz]

For me personally hate is too strong of a word for any of them, except as a fan it is fun to hate on players that have wronged my team. I think that there are many of these players that either intentionally or not, really hurt Jazz nation with their actions or lack there of. In Ostertag's case he took a lot of time off where he didn't really even try to put in the effort and his contract was way bigger than he was. Some might feel the same about Kirlenko but I feel that he was never used correctly with the Jazz except maybe the one year he played power forward. Polynice did a lot of really dumb things off the court as well as just not being very good on the court. Amechi was just about the money and was an a$$ so good mention on him. I don't think Shandon really did anything wrong and I'm not sure why Crotty would be hated or Korver.

Let me explain about John Crotty.

Now do you get it?

 

[Ellipse]

The relationship between employee and employer is completely lopsided when it comes to hiring and firing. I think there are a lot of advantages to being an employee, you don't have to give any of those advantages up voluntarily. You can bet your *** your employer doesn't give up their power in order to be nice or considerate.

I'm retired now, but I learned early in life that the only right an employee had was the right to quit.

The two-week notice is a curtesy everyone should give their employer, if only to avoid being blackballed (and some employers will cut you a check for two-weeks pay and escort you out the same day).

 

[Jazz Spazz]

I'm retired now, but I learned early in life that the only right an employee had was the right to quit.

The two-week notice is a curtesy everyone should give their employer, if only to avoid being blackballed (and some employers will cut you a check for two-weeks pay and escort you out the same day).

The more experience I get, the more I agree with Bulletproof on this. Why is there an expectation on the employee to give notice when company after company will drop you instantly without a care. I've seen some good managers that will give fight for their people to have notice before being let go, but that is the manager and not the company. Do what is best for you, because that's exactly what the company will do in most cases, what's good for them, and drop you like a rock. At will state.

 

[fishonjazz]

I am strongly opposed to the whole 2 weeks notice thing. I feel absolutely no obligation whatsoever to give 2 weeks notice in most circumstances.

One place I worked would walk you out the door the second you gave your two weeks notice. Most places I've worked, when they don't want you to work there anymore and decide to fire you, they might come to that conclusion days or even weeks before they actually do it. You show up to work on a Friday and instead of going to work they pull you aside, tell you you don't work there anymore. Escort you to gather your things and walk you out the door. Yet I'm supposed to give them 2 weeks notice? Yeah, no thanks. If it's convenient for me I'll do it. If not, I won't. If I feel like it will help my coworkers at all I would strongly lean towards giving notice, but I've never been in a situation in my adult life where I can be adequately replaced in 2 weeks.

At my current job, if I found a new place to work I'd take two-weeks off to coincide with when I start at the new place. I'd give the new place two weeks trial. If I liked it I'd wait to get paid for my vacation and let the old place know I wasn't coming back. If I didn't like the new place I'd just return to work at the end of my vacation and let the new place know I didn't like it there.

The relationship between employee and employer is completely lopsided when it comes to hiring and firing. I think there are a lot of advantages to being an employee, you don't have to give any of those advantages up voluntarily. You can bet your *** your employer doesn't give up their power in order to be nice or considerate.

I think it should be mentioned that your job and Hayward’s job are not comparable.
You don’t have a whole state worth of fans buying your jerseys, cheering for you and investing a lot of time and money into you.
Also, I think that if you were making millions from your employer and they were treating you like royalty and wanting to give you even more money and showing you tons of love to try to get you to stay, you might take 60 seconds and pick up your phone to call them and say something, anything.
60 second phone call isn’t two weeks notice. I bet you could manage to do that if your employer and fans treated you like the jazz did.

 

[Ellipse]

I kinda agree, ive seen people forced into retirement due to others poor decisions but they needed a fall guy,

The more experience I get, the more I agree with Bulletproof on this. Why is there an expectation on the employee to give notice when company after company will drop you instantly without a care. I've seen some good managers that will give fight for their people to have notice before being let go, but that is the manager and not the company. Do what is best for you, because that's exactly what the company will do in most cases, what's good for them, and drop you like a rock. At will state.

Hey, I'm not disagreeing with you. The fact I'm retired wasn't by choice -- I was the scape goat for poor engineering that cost the company a few million. Yeah, I could have caught the mistake, but it never occurred to me that the engineering staff could be so damn stupid and incompetent. Unfortunately, the company had already fired the engineering manager four months earlier and the project engineer and process engineer a month earlier for unrelated reasons, which left only me or the plant manager to take the fall when the magnitude of the engineering mistake became apparent.

Oh, well, I hated that job.

 

[#UJ4ever]

Who is most liked for their personality? Of the current players my top 5 in order are.

Ingles
Gobert
Mitchell
Rubio
Favors

Starting lineup! LOL

Let me explain about John Crotty.

Now do you get it?

Was a untalented piece of crap. Is that what you are saying?

 

[Jazz Spazz]

Who is most liked for their personality? Of the current players my top 5 in order are.

Ingles
Gobert
Mitchell
Rubio
Favors

Starting lineup! LOL

Was a untalented piece of crap. Is that what you are saying?

I think framer can clear it up. #pagingframer

 

[NUMBERICA]

Can you imagine Hood going rogue not running the plays Quin called then management just looked the other way?

That comparison is straight up stupid. There is virtually nothing to compare.

 

[fallenchicken]

When I quit walmart when i was 17, I had the decency to call sam walton's wife personally.

 

[fallenchicken]

Also anyone who hates Kanter is a joyless freak. He rules. Just a fun guy. He's not even good and it helped our franchise when he wanted a trade. Imagine if we had paid him.

 

[infection]

When I quit walmart when i was 17, I had the decency to call sam walton's wife personally.

You live in Bentonville?

 

[Grimmetal]

I'm a big forgiveness guy... so I'm very impressed most have forgiven Dwill

I though have not. Too much nostalgia with Sloan - Raja claimed Dwill only mirrored the play that was called in the Chicago game before the half, ok ok.. but It happened more than that one time didn't it? So screw him I haven't forgiven him. Can you imagine Hood going rogue not running the plays Quin called then management just looked the other way?

I've come to look at it as a 'blessing in disguise', specifically for Jerry. Considering how quickly Jerry's health has declined over the past several years, I'm grateful that he's had time to step away from the game and just enjoy life and his family. No one deserves it more after giving so much to Jazz fans and the Miller family.

So, no hard feelings for Williams. It happened. His career fell off after going to Brooklyn and Jerry was able to focus on the important things. Both have suffered enough to not have to endure stupid fan drama.

 

[Douchebag K]

Is that how it really happened?

Jerk. Yes.

But he also seems horribly passive aggressive to me. It was clear the only reason he denied the Boston decision when it leaked was so he could write his wonderful article that was supposed to make all of Utah feel better. It was his way of easing his conscience.

Then doesn't have the guts to call Gail.

Living in Utah I know Passive aggressive, and it described Gordy perfectly.

I'm not sure if he's passive aggressive or just a sociopath who is completely unaware of how he comes across to people

 

[Jack Strop]

I'm not sure if he's passive aggressive or just a sociopath who is completely unaware of how he comes across to people

Or maybe he's just an *******. The minute Stevens was hired by Boston was the minute Hayward started counting the days he could flee Utah.

Not giving mention to his teammates, not thanking Quin or Bryant for all their work in helping him become better. Ingles and his family were supposedly were close to Gordon and Robyn. And not even a goodbye to Joe. Hayward is just an *******. He cares only for himself. Well, and he loves Brad.

 

[Lakers_Slapper]

My fellow Jazz fanz, let's not sugar coat it when it comes to Hayward.
-Build a bridge and get over it.
-Hayward is a soft genitaled debutante and has been since day one.
-He isn't capable of carrying the weight of his wife's purse to the finals, he won't be capable of carrying the team torch.
-He ran to the East, knowing that it is a garbage conference and his weaknesses will be disguised.
-When your Rookie could be mistaken for a girl scout, I think its safe to say he's not the guy.
I didn't like Hayward from day 1. I watched for years "Hayward is God" posts, and fans getting hot and bothered every time he made a freethrow, uncontested jump shot, or ate a sandwich. Hayward was never God, because God is a man who pee's standing up. Show me a god that wears pig tails.
I'll wait...……………………………………………………………...

 

[framer]

I think framer can clear it up. #pagingframer

John Crotty is actually the current #2 in Al Qaeda. Also, personally made the decision to cancel Firefly.

 

[Jazz Spazz]

John Crotty is actually the current #2 in Al Qaeda. Also, personally made the decision to cancel Firefly.

Dude, he's a mercenary. We should have known better, he is what he is. We can still hate him though.
If I ever made a TV movie about him, I think I know who I'd have play him.