Do any of you drive hybrids? (prius, volt, leaf, etc)

[Beantown]

Not everyone lives in Utah, but Utah actually has one of the better public trans systems in the US.

Ew....maybe for the size of the city or something. But as of now it only goes one direction. North and south, and it takes forever. We will see when its all done but its so freaking slow. From Sandy to the University of Utah is literally an hour and a half.

 

[The Thriller]

Only euro weenies drive hybrids.

In America, we drive real vehicles.

and

 

[One Brow]

Though I have to admit I am yet to see data to proves that we need to cut emissions.

Much of the data is publically available. Can you interpret it?

 

[franklin]

Yes, you're right. People are toys for the government to manipulate into whatever behavior is currently preferred. In this instance it's driving hybrids, in another it might be shoving undesirable people into ovens. Whatever the government needs humans for it should manipulate them into doing.

The comparison of incentivizing environmentally friendly transportation for an apparent societal gain to genocide is a little ridiculous. A lot ridiculous. My problem with the "stay away from me government" movement is that there are some decisions that are beneficial to society as a whole, but the rational individual decision doesn't get us there. That's why I think we need the incentives.

Does this qualify as Godwin's Law?

Catch up to Gameface.

 

[franklin]

Also, I'd still like to know wtf The Internet Son was talking about -- Hybrids are destroying the planet? Huh?

There was an article a few years back about a Prius being more polluting than a Hummer when considering mining heavy metals to production to recycling/landfilling. It wasn't scientific.

 

[Duck Rodgers]

Only euro weenies drive hybrids.

Don't you live in Orem? I don't know if it is the lib UVU professors or what, but Orem has to be the per capita leader in smart cars.

 

[LogGrad98]

There was an article a few years back about a Prius being more polluting than a Hummer when considering mining heavy metals to production to recycling/landfilling. It wasn't scientific.

Oh that. I thought that baby had been put to bed.

 

[LogGrad98]

Catch up to Gameface.

What does Milgram have to do with Godwin?

Oh. I see.

 

[babe]

Utah should have never redone the freeways like a million times over. The best way for public transportation to work is to make it more convenient then driving. It should be faster to get from Sandy to downtown on Trax. Yet this is not the case.

Utah actually has a history of a once-effective public mass transit. I'm not sure it was run by the government. Used to be a lot of trolleys plying the major routes to downtown, with a warehouse for the trolleys at what is now Trolley Square. Like many cities of the early nineteenth century, the abandonment of these services was actually a goal of competitors like the auto companies and oil companies.

UTA runs a tax-subsidized imitation of the Philippine jeepney in their rideshare program. Rideshare routes are operated by some employers for the benefit of their employees, particularly in remote jobsites.

 

[babe]

If they ever figure out the hydrogen fuel-cells properly you can solve the electric car's battery issues- cost, capacity and toxicity. An electric would be by far a superior vehicle.


Couple that with either natural gas power plants or nuclear power and we could cut our emissions by significant amount. Though I have to admit I am yet to see data to proves that we need to cut emissions.

It is true that hydrogen does not emit anything but water vapor in its combustion, and it has a favorable energy/mass ratio. Using it directly in combustion is vividly deterred by images of the Hindenburg disaster, but is in fact no more dangerous than operating fuel cells with it.

Current batteries even Lithium-based, present a challenge on the distance issue. Double the driving range doubles the battery required. That is where the hybrid becomes a marketable compromise.

We build interstate highways which are quite serviceable, and the HOV lane is a mere gesture towards "solving" our congestion/pollution problems. Our politicians are already getting set up to get revenue from the hybrids by taxing them separately from the gasoline/diesel burners, but the hybrids are not the vehicles that do the damage so much as the trucks, and it's senseless to tax them when they are part of the solution to problems we are spending government revenues to solve.

I think it's time for a new innovative transportation infrastructure. A multitrack "monorail" between major metropolitan centers for a new type of vehicle. A lightweight "hybrid" that besides running on its own power and wheels can be hooked from on top to a track running along (over??) the Interstates which is energized and set up to reduce friction ala Maglev technology. When you approach to "on ramp" you activate a hydraulic arm that raises your "hook" and you drive into the hookup port. You would have a control that could activate switches in the track for you to allow you to exit when you approach your exit. You unhook yourself, pay your toll which includes your energy charge, and you drive off to work/play/shop with a driving range your car is built to do. Some folks might want more range, but a lot of folks would do just fine with only fifty miles.

I bet it wouldn't take long for truckers to want their own system, too.

 

[VINYLONE]

I didnt realize so many of you would be driving these things.

are you guys cool with amount of environmental harm you guys are causing?

Best post ever.

 

[VINYLONE]

You and I are on the same page here. Presently thinking about a Ducati Monster 696.

Not trying to troll...is your hairline receding? Just wondering.

 

[default]

Not everyone lives in Utah

No way! I suppose the earth isn't flat too?

 

[bigb]

Not trying to troll...is your hairline receding? Just wondering.

Mine is in a big way and I'm not, nor will I ever, get a scooter.

 

[Scat]

Not trying to troll...is your hairline receding? Just wondering.

Haven't you seen his pics? He has "Hi-Line Hair" somewhat akin to this.

 

[Deleted member 848]

Wait... what?

I drive a Prius and I love it. I am 6'4", so it tends to be a bit cramped in there, but I don't give a rats ***. I paid 30 bucks to fill my tank the other day and got 420 miles out of it. I don't care if my car came with an iron mouth attached to the front that required I feed it baby trees in order to start, I wouldn't trade it for anything.

Manhood = revoked.


I was trying to find a thread that talked about what cars people drive. Didn't find one.


I drive a Mercedes-Benz C220, '95. Nothing special.

 

[nightmare3983]

If this is now a general what you drive thread, I drive a 2002 Hyundai Elantra. It's a decent car with gas mileage in the high 20's.

 

[nightmare3983]

Manhood = revoked.


I was trying to find a thread that talked about what cars people drive. Didn't find one.


I drive a Mercedes-Benz C220, '95. Nothing special.

My first thought was "nothing special?" Then I saw the '95 and your post made a little more sense.

 

[Beantown]

The company I work for here in Boston got me a Prius. I friggin love it. It filsl up for about 27 bucks and lasts me about 2 weeks. It's pretty comfy too. The best part is how quit they are. I hope soon enough to get a Volt.

 

[TroutBum]

Manhood = revoked.


I was trying to find a thread that talked about what cars people drive. Didn't find one.


I drive a Mercedes-Benz C220, '95. Nothing special.

I just rolled 254,000 miles, bitch. Got 44.4 MPG on my last tank, which cost me 30 bucks to fill. Want to know how much I've had to put into this car besides routine stuff like oil changes, brakes, etc? ZERO.

These are my balls: Eat 'em.