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Do most Jazz fans not care about looking like fools to the National Media?

KrazeeEyezKilla said:
Honz, I'll admit, I'm warming up. He has great skills and probably work ethic and intangibles. He's got a decent enough frame to get stronger and maybe a little quicker (he's only 20) and put on 10-15 pounds of muscle. I also think he may be a lot better defender than we realize. Right now, my biggest concerns are his defense and his perimeter shooting.
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The D concerns are legit as he is a solid, but not great athlete...he could struggle against quicker 3's. I have no worries about his outside shooting though. His stroke is pure and he shot 44% as a Freshman when he was shooting open catch and shoot 3's like he will be doing for the Jazz.
 
Regarding his d, Butler was an excellent defensive team and I read today about how he was a good defensive player. Do we know if he guarded Wesley Johnson and vice versa in their tourney game?
 
Jazzfannut83 said:
I don't give a rats *** how they view. I care about the Jazz and the Jazz only...the rest of the NBA, especially the commish, anyone who plays for the Lakers, Nuggets, Spurs, Rockets, or any other direct adversary of the Jazz and the so called national media can go piss up a rope. And yes...especially that canniving, manipulative sleazeball Fisher.

As for Hayward? He's not the first nor will he be the last player drafted to be booed and it happens everywhere, we're tame compared to how some cities have or would have reacted. At this point just hoping for the best, he seems like a good kid and undoubtedly the first time he sees the floor and even so much as hustles after a loose ball, the cheers will be 10x as loud as any boos he heard.
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+1 It happens everywhere. NY nad Philly noted above are rough - why give Utah a hard time? Becuase they are haters. It happens in a lot of circumstances that don't really seem like it should. When Deron was drafted it was 1/2 boos and 1/2 cheers due to the Chris Paul option. thinking logically, how different did everyone see DW and CP, but we as emotional fans made a big deal out of it. If it were just logic we would have cheered loudly for either.
 
Jazzfannut83 said:
I don't give a rats *** how they view. I care about the Jazz and the Jazz only...the rest of the NBA, especially the commish, anyone who plays for the Lakers, Nuggets, Spurs, Rockets, or any other direct adversary of the Jazz and the so called national media can go piss up a rope. And yes...especially that canniving, manipulative sleazeball Fisher.

As for Hayward? He's not the first nor will he be the last player drafted to be booed and it happens everywhere, we're tame compared to how some cities have or would have reacted. At this point just hoping for the best, he seems like a good kid and undoubtedly the first time he sees the floor and even so much as hustles after a loose ball, the cheers will be 10x as loud as any boos he heard.
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Wtf is that supposed to mean?

As for the question at hand; No I don't care how the media perceives us, hell it's the only time the jazz get talked about is our fans, who cares if it's bad? Publicity good or bad is still publicity.
 
Mambo said:
Michael Wilbon is a Jordan Homer and never has really liked the Jazz.

Who else wouldnt boo that pick?

Everyone said he was drafted too high.


Everyone already thinks all Jazz fans are all racist/white/mormons

So who gives a ****?

Might aswell have a reputation for being vulgar/loud/intimidating
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I know for a fact that Stern got more boos every time he came to the podium durning the draft than Gordon ever well by the fans here.
 
...seems to me that Jazz fanzs booed because....they REALLY, REALLY wanted to change there image! They booed because ANOTHER skinny white guy was picked....when they really wanted to go "hopper" with an athletic black kid who could leap tall buildings in a single bound, take his man off the dribble, "create" his own shot....and if nothing more, give them some AND1 entertainment for this next season! It would have been bad had they NOT booed! There cheering would have certainly been construed as being racist! At some point, the Jazz are going to go "hopper"....just not this year!
 
Yes sometimes Jazz fans cross the line. However, Jazz fans did not invent bad behavior. ESPN has been anti-Utah for a long time. Then national media has done a better job over the years but they too have said a lot of negative things about the Jazz. I have learned to ignore most of what they say. I can guarantee if the Jazz moved to Las Vegas the negativity would immediately go away.

I have witness just as bad behavior or worse in places like Philly, Detroit, Washngton, Houston, Cleveland, LA etc.

What the Jazz fans need is to collectively organize and call ESPN out for their own poor behavior. I know ESPN doesn't care but it would make some Jazzfans feel better.

Espn thinks booing the pick means that Utah hates Gordon Hayward but since the national media doesn't follow the everyday ins and outs of Jazzfans they are clueless why Jazz fans are upset. Its the same thing about the Fisher story. I have yet to hear any announcer actually tell the Jazz side of the story.
 
Harcher said:
When Deron was drafted it was 1/2 boos and 1/2 cheers due to the Chris Paul option. thinking logically, how different did everyone see DW and CP, but we as emotional fans made a big deal out of it. If it were just logic we would have cheered loudly for either.
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Harcher, you speak of "emotional fans," which kinda gives the impression of a fan whose main motive and concern is benefit to, and improvement of, the team. Going back to the Williams/Paul "debate" there was a significant segment of posters who simply became Williams haters because their own real motive was to attempt to prove that they knew more than anyone else.

Quite a few could not leave it at "I preferred Paul, but Williams is a good player, so I'm not gunna piss and moan 24/7." On the contrary, many made a virtual career out of denigrating Williams and declaring that, essentially, he was no more than a glorified scrub. They desparately wanted Williams to utterly fail, just so they could say "I told ya!" Wanting the team to succeed was not really even part of their outlook. Hate, especially when generated by egomania, is a powerful thing. But hatred is not the equivalent of "being a fan," anymore than a spoiled, demanding, fit-throwing 7 seven-year old is simply the equivlent of "being a kid."
 
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