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Wasn't meant as a knock on Hayward. He is putting up nearly 20 ppg (with limited offensive players around him) & that is close enough to a #1 option. I just think that we need one more 20+ ppg scorer in our starting rotation (unless the rest of the starting 5 is able to average 16-18 ppg, which I don't see happening) & don't see another 20+ ppg caliber player currently on this roster. If we are going to get thru the gauntlet that is the WC playoffs some day, I think we will need a second scoring option, besides Hayward, who we can go to when the game is on the line. Moving forward (offensively), as the roster currently stands, I think we would be putting too many eggs (or balls) in Hayward's basket. Sorry for the lame Easter metaphor, but it is almost that time of the year.
 
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Well I think Burks or Hood can be another offensive threat. Hood has shown flashes and he is still a rookie. I think with the improvement of Exum, getting Burks back and the improvement of Rudy and Hood the Jazz are going to have plenty of offense. They just need to continue to build chemistry and improve individually. This team isn't even close to where they will be in 2 to 3 years. Right now the Jazz need to improve their bench with another Big (Center) and another shooter. A guy who can create his own shot when needed. That is what is lacking with this team for right now.
 
Well I think Burks or Hood can be another offensive threat. Hood has shown flashes and he is still a rookie. I think with the improvement of Exum, getting Burks back and the improvement of Rudy and Hood the Jazz are going to have plenty of offense. They just need to continue to build chemistry and improve individually. This team isn't even close to where they will be in 2 to 3 years. Right now the Jazz need to improve their bench with another Big (Center) and another shooter. A guy who can create his own shot when needed. That is what is lacking with this team for right now.
Fantastic post. Though I think we are ok as far as having guys who can create thier own shot. Burks is great at that, Hayward too...... good seems to be able to..... favors can be given the Rick and then create a shot..... exum might be able to next year.

Everything else in your post is spot on.

This team is going to be good
 
I agree that the type of team that we become in the future will be mostly determined by our internal growth, which I see great potential for. I also think that, while we will certainly improve as a unit over the next few years, that there are still enough question marks to justify continuing to add to the immense stockpile of talent that we have already compiled. I think it would be a mistake to rely solely on internal development. For one, I don't see anybody other than Hayward who has the offensive potential to become a consistent 20+ ppg scorer. Burks definitely has good offensive potential, but is an ideal 6th man, offensive spark off of the bench, with Hood being a great fit alongside him (because his 3 pt sooting will open up the lane for Burks) in our 2nd unit. If we can bring over Tomic (or if not sign/draft a decent defensive big who can preferably pass as well), & eventually (not necessarily this upcoming year) find a stretch 4 to replace Booker & a PG who can facilitate an offense, not be a defensive liability, & shoot (not chuck) to eventually replace Burke, we could have the perfect bench to compliment our starting unit. The key will be finding that missing 20+ ppg scoring starter, who won't be a defensive liability (Hezonja).

Next year:

Exum/Burke or FA PG
Hood/Burks/Millsap
Hayward/Hezonja/Ingles
Favors/Booker
Gobert/Tomic or a FA C

Future:

Exum/FA PG
Hezonja/Burks/Millsap
Hayward/Hood/Millsap
Favors/stretch 4
Gobert/Tomic or a FA C

Hopefully Hezonja slips to our pick, if not trade the pick + Burke(or 1 of Booker/OKC 1st/GSW 1st)to move up for him (between #8-10). If Burke is traded, you sign a FA PG. If Hezonja drops to where we are picking, maybe we try to package Burke & Booker for a stretch 4 (& sign a PG) or a backup PG (& sign a stretch 4). Starting Hood at SG next year would allow Burks to settle into his role as 6th man (& get Hood even more accustomed to starting at SG incase Hezonja doesn't develop as expected), & let Hezonja be the backup SF (while still getting some time at SG). If Hezonja eventually develops into that go to scorer, Hood should be able to seamlessly transition back to the bench as our backup SF. Getting Hood & Hezonja comfortable with both wing positions would make our lineup more versatile & allow us to let matchups dictate which wing position Hezonja/Hayward plays.

Our future lineup would then consist of:

Exum (great defense/passing &, hopefully, good enough shooting to allow him to penetrate & create)
Hezonja (elite shooting & good playmaking/defense- hopefully an alpha mentality who, along with Hayward, is capable of making clutch shots)
Hayward (great all-around player, capable of making clutch shots/plays)
Favors (good offense/rebounding & great defense, plus- hopefully- good enough mid-range to unclog the paint some)
Gobert (hopefully decent offense & elite defense/rebounding)

That would be a great future starting lineup, which could be very good offensively & potentially elite defensively. One that could be championship caliber, especially with a future bench consisting of:

FA PG (doesn't necessarily have to be a FA from this year, just has to not be Burke- not meant as a knock on Burke, just don't think he fits well next to Burks & is not the ideal mentor for Exum-preferably someone who looks to facilitate first rather than score- which will be Burks' job, is not a defensive liability, & can hit an open 3)
Burks (6th man, instant offense, playmaker, hopefully not a liability on defense)
Hood (very good outside shooter, who will keep defenses honest & allow Burks to drive & finish/kick out for an open 3, not a liability on defense)
Stretch 4 (I think finding our stretch big, who isn't a complete liability on defense, will be vital to our success, as he will be able to play alongside both Favors & Gobert, which will obviously help to unclog what projects to be a very clogged paint)
Tomic (who knows if he finally comes over, but if he does, I think his passing will fit perfectly within our offensive system; only concern is how his defense will translate- if he instead stays overseas, then I hope we are able to find a defensive big who fits alongside our stretch 4.

11th man: E.Millsap (his emergence/signing, imo, is a greatly underrated move by this FO, & is the perfect 11th man, who can be our lockdown wing defender when certain matchups dictate it)

It would be nice to keep Ingles around as well, but Millsap should be the priority between the two due to his defensive ability. Then there is still Neto & Pleiss, both of whom are good to have as insurance just incase of injuries.

We, as fans, are very lucky to be able to have the opportunity to watch as this team transitions from that of a rebuilding team to that of a team in which may be just a player or two away from becoming a legitimate championship contender within a few years, especially as it has occurred in a way that nobody could have possibly predicted.
 
It's hard to tell if the Jazz have 'it'. As far as our defense goes, yeah we have it. We have a killer defense despite the fact that a lot of our players are rookies or d-league guys. That's a great sign. It really comes down to offense, who can be out elite go to guy in the playoffs when baskets are hard to get.
I've loved Hayward this season, but I don't see him being that guy really.
I've always been a huge Burks fan but I don't see that either. Really want to see if he can learn how to work well in Quin's system.
If Exum becomes a star on offense, we have it all to compete, but if he is just average on offense we may need to get someone via FA.

Although thinking about Rudy's growth, I wouldn't be surprised if he developed a killer offensive game.
 
Have we got starting 5 (at least for the near future)?

Exum/Burke
Burks/Hood
Hayward
Favors
Gobert

In this group of 7 do we have the starting 5 we need?
If yes then we are just adding depth.
If NO then which spot is the weakest link?

Exum/Burke
Hood/Burks
Hayward
Favors
Gobert
 
I think there is a short term (Next year) and longer term. If you look at who's under contract 3 years from now this team could look completely different.

Short term depends on if we can have Tomic come over and how Exum develops. Depending on if we have lady luck on our side in the draft will shape this team. If we fall in the 12-14 mark, we could trade up to the 5-10 range to get a SF or BIG that they would be targeting. If Tomic comes over I think we keep Booker and we are set for our core rotation at the PF/C spots.

In the draft we most likely go SF/SG and have a 4 man rotation of Hayward/Hood/Burks/Rookie. Hard part about this is Hayward and Burks are both signed long term and Hood has 2 more years plus the option there as well.

I don't see this team being drastically different next year - add possibly Tomic and the Rookie but in 3 years, when I fully expect us to be competing at the top of the WC, it will depend on Exums development. I was a big Burke supporter being a Michigan fan but he is in the best case, a Vinny Johnson off the bench spark. I hope if the decision next year to start Hood and have Burks and Burke be the scoring punch off the bench that they could compliment each other. Time will tell.
 
Once Cooley finds his game he will be a 30, 15, and 2 guy.
Yep, he is being corbined right now.
Damn Quin playing the vets ahead of cooley
 
I've wondered the same thing, but I've been wanting to give our staff the benefit of the doubt, since allowing him to play hurt at this point would be ****ing stupid.

I'm pretty sure you have aspergers.

I don't think you ever completed one sentence without using the word stupid.

P.s. Boozer sucked
 
Yay Jabari!!! Cuz Hakl only like defense. Jabari great defender! Yay!

Let's check the facts

We know Boozer was terrible at defense.

Jabari has half a year under his belt. Still growing as a player.

Got anymore lame arguments? Huh, aspergers boy?
 
How can we talk about defense with Hayward at the 3? He's not a three hes a defensive stopper at 2 like Dante is a stopper at 1 not 2. Could you imagine Dante trying to stop Hayward? Not happening.

Dude if we want a defensive identity we need to try another stretch 3. Something like Luol Deng with a shot. Heck Id even take AI with his broken shot because I believe in this team and I believe defense wins championships.

I also believe Quinn could figure out how to use a no shooting player but playmaker like Iggy or Deng even if they have to play with Gobert and Favors. Quinn will make it work and if he doesn't the defense will spare us anyway.

Dont talk defense with Hayward at 3. Its ugly mate.
Wow. I nominate this post for stupidest post of the year.
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Hayward is a good/great defender at either spot. But I see him as better as a SF. His added strength this year has made his defense even better. He rarely gets abused by anyone anymore.
 
I've wondered the same thing, but I've been wanting to give our staff the benefit of the doubt, since allowing him to play hurt at this point would be ****ing stupid.
If he wants to play they need to let him. But I agree he shouldn't be playing if he's hurt.
 
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If he wants to play they need to let him. But I agree he shouldn't be playing if he's hurt.

Lots of players will play until body parts start falling off, if you let them. If Utah was fighting for a playoff spot, then you trust the player and take the risk. When you're eliminated from the playoffs and draft position is a consideration, you err on the side of caution. I'm guessing if Hayward is hurt, he may be downplaying it to the medical staff, but this is something they need to be right on top of.
 
Golden state. Loss
Minnesota
Portland
Denver
OKC
Minessota again
Denver again

It has nothing to do with Gobert, Favors, Exum and everything to do with Hayward. Those teams all have elite small forwards.
Sincere question because I haven't looked - is there any evidence to suggest Hayward has struggled against opposing threes? As I've watched the games I haven't seen that happen, in fact just the opposite if anything, but sometimes one doesn't see or notice everything.
 
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