Do you think its possible we are living in a holographic universe?

[Hotdog]

Are you familiar the double slit experiment, and the quantum wave function?


Just curious if anyone else follows Physics and Quantum Mechanics. The stuff is really mind blowing and interesting. Im kind mad at myself for not making it my study going to college for it. I really like listening to guys like Leonard Susskind. I can listen to it for hours.

 

[Dr. Jones]

Are you familiar the double slit experiment, and the quantum wave function?


Just curious if anyone else follows Physics and Quantum Mechanics. The stuff is really mind blowing and interesting. Im kind mad at myself for not making it my study going to college for it. I really like listening to guys like Leonard Susskind. I can listen to it for hours.

don't get me started bro... chillz...... damn.

 

[Hotdog]

don't get me started bro... chillz...... damn.

Somehow I knew that someone would respond to it that way. I must have received the info about the upcoming event through a phenomenon know as quantum entanglement. We are all connected. Even the future, present, and past are connected. No information is lost. So some how I was able to sense that you would make this response.

 

[Dr. Jones]

Somehow I knew that someone would respond to it that way. I must have received the info about the upcoming event through a phenomenon know as quantum entanglement. We are all connected. Even the future, present, and past are connected. No information is lost. So some how I was able to sense that you would make this response.

Congrats.. always awesome when someone gets it... kudos.

 

[Deleted member 848]

All my non-knowledged brain could gather (from what little reading I've done on this) regarding the two-slit experiment is that particles exhibit the properties of waves, and waves exhibit the properties of particles.


I feel like I am missing out on something. Admittedly, I srsly lack le physics knowledge.

 

[Siro]

All my non-knowledged brain could gather (from what little reading I've done on this) regarding the two-slit experiment is that particles exhibit the properties of waves, and waves exhibit the properties of particles.


I feel like I am missing out on something. Admittedly, I srsly lack le physics knowledge.

Everything exists as a probability wave on the quantum level. They only become "particles" once their wave function collapses upon the performance of a measurement.

 

[Siro]

Are you familiar the double slit experiment, and the quantum wave function?


Just curious if anyone else follows Physics and Quantum Mechanics. The stuff is really mind blowing and interesting. Im kind mad at myself for not making it my study going to college for it. I really like listening to guys like Leonard Susskind. I can listen to it for hours.

Susskind has a pretty comprehensive set of lectures on the subject on youtube. You don't need to be mad at yourself for not studying it, when you can go ahead and fix that. You would need to go through some calculus and linear algebra, but if you're dedicated you can learn quite a bit about the subject within few months.

 

[Hotdog]

Susskind has a pretty comprehensive set of lectures on the subject on youtube. You don't need to be mad at yourself for not studying it, when you can go ahead and fix that. You would need to go through some calculus and linear algebra, but if you're dedicated you can learn quite a bit about the subject within few months.

Actually been thinking about doing that lately. Hard to go full time though because of life obligations. Would just love to win a million bucks and go back to school on it. Would be awesome.

Have you studied this subject quite a bit?

I just love this era of science we are in. Seems as though the possibilities are endless and we are figuring out that science fiction isn't so much fiction anymore. Its very exciting.

 

[Hotdog]

Everything exists as a probability wave on the quantum level. They only become "particles" once their wave function collapses upon the performance of a measurement.

Or in other words, when we observe it. So essentially it only exists as a particle when it is observed. Otherwise its a wave of information. Thats whats so interesting. The universe only seems to exists in particle form when life acknowledges that it is there. Otherwise it is an information field carrying infinite amounts of information waves.

That is some pretty spooky stuff.

Did I explain it in a correct way Siro? Obviously electromagnetism is in there somewhere giving the physical feel to "reality".

 

[Deleted member 848]

Everything exists as a probability wave on the quantum level. They only become "particles" once their wave function collapses upon the performance of a measurement.

Right. I recall reading that. It reminds me of a formula that relates something's mass to its wavelength. In other words, something like an electron can have a relative pronounced wavelength in comparison to a human being, for example. Not sure if I'm mis-remembering that. Again, I'm more than happy to bow out of this conversation, and read the discussion instead. I hope y'all can keep it pretty simple, for us the less-informed.

 

[Siro]

Right. I recall reading that. It reminds me of a formula that relates something's mass to its wavelength. In other words, something like an electron can have a relative pronounced wavelength in comparison to a human being, for example. Not sure if I'm mis-remembering that. Again, I'm more than happy to bow out of this conversation, and read the discussion instead. I hope y'all can keep it pretty simple, for us the less-informed.

The De Broglie relation; Wavelength = Planck's constant/Momentum

It applies to everything, not just particles. For example a car weighing 1000kg travelling at 100km/hr per second will have a wavelength of (6.626*10^-34)/((1000)(360))

That equals 1.8*10^-39 m! Which is very very small, and beyond the ability of any technology to measure. But it exists in that way nonetheless.

 

[Bawse Dawg]

Learning about this in physics right now! I'll be getting my bachelors in physics and PhD in astrophysics. So hopefully I'm at the forefront of studying this kind of stuff.

 

[Deleted member 848]

The De Broglie relation; Wavelength = Planck's constant/Momentum

It applies to everything, not just particles. For example a car weighing 1000kg travelling at 100km/hr per second will have a wavelength of (6.626*10^-34)/((1000)(360))

That equals 1.8*10^-39 m! Which is very very small, and beyond the ability of any technology to measure. But it exists in that way nonetheless.

Right! De Broglie. That's what it was. I remember finding that cool when I first came across it.

 

[Siro]

Or in other words, when we observe it. So essentially it only exists as a particle when it is observed. Otherwise its a wave of information. Thats whats so interesting. The universe only seems to exists in particle form when life acknowledges that it is there. Otherwise it is an information field carrying infinite amounts of information waves.

That is some pretty spooky stuff.

Did I explain it in a correct way Siro? Obviously electromagnetism is in there somewhere giving the physical feel to "reality".

A particle doesn't need to be observed by a human eye for the wave function to collapse. Typically, computer connected equipment will measure a particle, and the computer will inform you of the measurement. Our brain simply allows us to recognize the measurement of the event.

I don't do mystic musings about consciousness caused collapse or any of that stuff. I'd like to keep the conversation grounded in what is known and understood.

 

[Hotdog]

Learning about this in physics right now! I'll be getting my bachelors in physics and PhD in astrophysics. So hopefully I'm at the forefront of studying this kind of stuff.

Do you think you will make good money right out of school? What kind of jobs will you do?

 

[Siro]

Actually been thinking about doing that lately. Hard to go full time though because of life obligations. Would just love to win a million bucks and go back to school on it. Would be awesome.

Have you studied this subject quite a bit?

I just love this era of science we are in. Seems as though the possibilities are endless and we are figuring out that science fiction isn't so much fiction anymore. Its very exciting.

It's what I studied at school. And yes, we are in an amazing era indeed.

 

[Bawse Dawg]

Do you think you will make good money right out of school? What kind of jobs will you do?

Astronomer is my dream job, I know they make good money. Haven't been too worried about jobs yet because a physics degree is always going to be valuable no matter what, and I have zero family plans right now so making $80k right out of college isn't a need. I also haven't even got my associates degree yet, so plenty of time to figure it all out.

 

[Hotdog]

A particle doesn't need to be observed by a human eye for the wave function to collapse. Typically, computer connected equipment will measure a particle, and the computer will inform you of the measurement. Our brain simply allows us to recognize the measurement of the event.

I don't do mystic musings about consciousness caused collapse or any of that stuff. I'd like to keep the conversation grounded in what is known and understood.

Does that mean you dont like to theorize what the implications of all this means? I thought thats what made it fun?

 

[Siro]

Does that mean you dont like to theorize what the implications of all this means? I thought thats what made it fun?

You don't know enough to pick an interpretation, and theories should be rigorous and include all known evidence, if possible. Don't just believe in something because it sounds good.

I'm also very hesitant to pick an interpretation myself, as I think it is better to just stick to the facts at hand. But if I HAD to pick one, it would definitely not include hidden variables, nor observer role, and probably no actual collapse of the function. So... multiverse it is.

 

[colton]

You don't know enough to pick an interpretation, and theories should be rigorous and include all known evidence, if possible. Don't just believe in something because it sounds good.

I'm also very hesitant to pick an interpretation myself, as I think it is better to just stick to the facts at hand. But if I HAD to pick one, it would definitely not include hidden variables, nor observer role, and probably no actual collapse of the function. So... multiverse it is.

Personally I think the multiverse explanation is exceedingly lame. It takes away our freedom of choice and the consequences of actions, which I firmly believe in--both for religious reasons as well as from the evidence of my own experience. Conversely, there's absolutely no evidence for a multiverse. There's also no current evidence for, say, string theory--but string theory at least holds the promise of one day being able to produce verifiable or falsifiable predictions. The multiverse theory does not. In my opinion it's not science, it's philosophy.

Sorry for the mini-rant.