Does anyone still like this team?
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Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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I don’t hate Mitchell, and he’s one of my favorite players, but if we are being honest about things, he’s fundamentally everything that’s wrong with this team. He’s small for his position, horrible defender, not always focused makes bad decisions all the time, turnover prone, and tends to bog down the offense doesn’t get to the line enough for the style of play he uses. He’s a very good player with all the wrong skill sets for how small he is if that makes sense. He’s a guy that should get Gobert way more dunks then he does. Fact is he doesn’t trust Gobert at all and it hurts him and the team. I’ve seen him play to an ungodly form in the playoffs and still isn’t able to carry the jazz to succeed in the playoffs past the second round.
In the end if someone offered the jazz top value in picks and young prospects, I’d jump at it if I was the teams gm.
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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And for the record I don’t buy into him wanting to leave the jazz or being fake or any of the rhetoric @oneye spews. I just think he’s a flawed superstar.
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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In my opinion, the jazz on paper have a much better team then last year and we are much worse. I think it might be time for a change. I think what Gobert does is more conducive to winning basketball, so Mitchell is the one you trade to make a change and it’s imo clear a change needs to happen. I love Mitchell and hope I’m wrong, but I don’t believe I am.
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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Yesterday, in a win no less I lost hope in the jazz making any noise in the post season for the first time ever. Last night not even the decent perimeter defenders like house and O’Neale were just letting guys just straight line driving right by then at will. That game should’ve been a 25+ point blowout, but the lakers were within striking distance for most of the game. Now my hope is that the jazz make the play in embarrass them a little, maybe that would light a fire under their uninterested asses
After last year's playoff loss there was a lot of talk about not worrying about seeding and going into the playoffs healthy.
So we don't have good seeding. Isn't that just fantastic according to posters here who claimed we blew our load for playoff seeding last year?
I'm just trying to understand the ever evolving wants and desires of www.jazzfanz.com
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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None of that has anything to do with record or sacrificing wins to be healthy for the playoffs, and everything to do with how the team looks and plays when healthy and full strength.
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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Last year, no Conley or no Mitchell… no problem, this year, no Bogey and the jazz go on a 5 ****ing game losing streak
No, it does.
People actively advocated for winning less regular season games to supposedly win more post season games.
I'll dig up the posts if you want.
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Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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And yet has nothing to do with what I’m complaining about. This team plays with no passion
Yeah, if you're not fighting for No. 1 then you obviously play games with no passion.
I'm not arguing against you. I'm arguing against the absurdity of not fighting for seeding.
Seeding matters. Winning games matters. Playing hard matters.
That's where I'm at and where I've always been.
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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Management isn’t fighting for #1. This has nothing to do with how the players play. The team has tried to focus on being healthy, players still trying to win as many games though. The jazz last year without Mitchell or Conley destroys this team fully healthy.
So when he demands a trade in the next 2-16 months will you change your mind then?
"I don't take personal shots at Rudy, except when I say he lacks humility and that I can't stand the lack of ownership with him."
The best part? Gobert explicitly called himself out in the post-game interview, a fact that even LoPo acknowledged after demanding and receiving proof.
(Sidenote: This all started with Lopo blaming something on Gobert that wasn't his fault - and when called out by LogGrad, Lopo admitted he didn't actually watch the game).
LoPo
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I took back my stance on Rudy when he actually owned up in his interview this week. You should try some of that humility stuff you type but don't comprehend.
And my comment you referred to about the game the other night was a basketball comment. Do you understand the difference between a personal attack and a basketball critique?
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FrenchJazzFa
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Rudy is not the best guys for communicate but he does his best for the team. Even if his tendency to complain my be a bit annoying sometimes.
JazzJunkie
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I'm ready to just set fire to it. Don and Rudy obviously don't like each other. That's not even debatable at this point. I'll never understand the coaches/FO decision to not play Don at point guard and waste assets on Conley. Dok over Bane will forever confound and drive me insane(just as I got over the Lyles/Booker ptsd) Doesn't seem to be any sort of solid plan. I'm rambling and need coffee.
JazzJunkie
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This season in general has me feeling like some lost soul wandering aimlessly around the Salt Flats with a twitchy eye and a faithful pet rock that I drag with a old piece of fishing line.
LoPo
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All this drama is annoying, but we still control our own destiny. Get us healthy and keep us healthy going into the playoffs and who knows....
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Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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Draft is a crap shoot. I don’t get too upset about most draft mistakes, every team is filled with their own mistakes. The drafting of Dok though is a different story. I’m still trying to figure out that logic. The jazz have also had their share of draft Triumphs.
As far as moving Don to pg instead of trading assets for Conley, I’m right there. I was championing that idea during all the Conley rumors at the time. The jazz just never learned their lesson of wasting firsts to plug in a starting pg. to this day I can’t help but wonder if we would’ve drafted Deontae Murray if we hadn’t traded that years first for one year of George Hill. Yes we got his best statistical year ever but we also got 40 something missed games and only that year. He was exactly the need the jazz had to address in that years draft.