b_line
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There has never been a rookie that has made as many three as Mitchell to this point in his career. That's a fact.
Does Donovan have a chance to be an All-Star this year?
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ghsartin
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Regarding Mitchell's numbers, I don't think you are taking into consideration the fatigue factor. Since Mitchell has never played so many games, at some point between game 35 and 50, he is going to hit the so-called "rookie wall", and will start to miss shots that he used to make - not only drives but even jumpers. Besides, the Jazz are not going to be fighting for a Top-4 seed in the playoffs, but to be in the playoffs, IMO. So, I don't think he can be an all-star this season.
The challenge for Mitchell, I think, would be to keep his efficiency level high when the fatigue sets in, instead of trying to score as often as before.
Archie Moses
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If he played for LA, the Knicks, the Bulls or any other large market team, the thiught would be entertained. Since he plays for Utah, no - nor do I think he's an all-star at this point.
That said, I haven't heard this much praise, love, hype, and respect from players, the media, and analysts for a Jazz player in my entire life. I love it. Mitchell has a very special demeanor and is very likable. Love the kid.
That said, I haven't heard this much praise, love, hype, and respect from players, the media, and analysts for a Jazz player in my entire life. I love it. Mitchell has a very special demeanor and is very likable. Love the kid.
Archie Moses
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I disagree. I think Mitchell's rookie wall was his first 10 or so games where it was between his ears and shot selection that held him back. He's young, he's motivated and he's hungry. He's not going to fatigue.
jjscap
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First time I see a jazz player getting so popular among other teams' fans. Some random posts today:
1. Exactly what Givony said today in Woj's podcast, a D-Wade with better shooting. And still great intangibles, athleticism, his mind and hard worker
Geez, i'll tell my grandsons that i was alive in the 17 and 18 draft class era.
2. brandon roy with knees
3. I don't think he has a ceiling.
4. So glad I picked him up on fantasy.
5. Yeah.... well..... did you guys see Tyler Lyndon ball out in the G league?! Trey Lyles has been pretty good!! ****ing kill me (DEN fan)
6. hes a swole Dame. He can fly, and he can launch from deep and still has saucy handles. Very fun to watch.
Last night CP3 said "they got a gem in him" after Rox vs Jazz game referring to Don.
7. Reminds me of a Dwade type of player with a better 3pt shot
8. If there's anyone the Knicks "should have drafted," it's Donovan Mitchell. Home grown New York kid that is intelligent, modest, high character and ready now.
9. This dude can be MVP.
10. His ceiling is one of the all time greats
1. Exactly what Givony said today in Woj's podcast, a D-Wade with better shooting. And still great intangibles, athleticism, his mind and hard worker
Geez, i'll tell my grandsons that i was alive in the 17 and 18 draft class era.
2. brandon roy with knees
3. I don't think he has a ceiling.
4. So glad I picked him up on fantasy.
5. Yeah.... well..... did you guys see Tyler Lyndon ball out in the G league?! Trey Lyles has been pretty good!! ****ing kill me (DEN fan)
6. hes a swole Dame. He can fly, and he can launch from deep and still has saucy handles. Very fun to watch.
Last night CP3 said "they got a gem in him" after Rox vs Jazz game referring to Don.
7. Reminds me of a Dwade type of player with a better 3pt shot
8. If there's anyone the Knicks "should have drafted," it's Donovan Mitchell. Home grown New York kid that is intelligent, modest, high character and ready now.
9. This dude can be MVP.
10. His ceiling is one of the all time greats
Knowledgeofmine
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I'm holding off until I see how he plays in year 2 before I annoint him the franchise player. Things tend to change after teams have film on a player and focus more of their game plan on certain player. Seen it to many times players surprising in year 1 to only come back to reality in year 2. Happens all then time so I'm not sure why y'all want to jinx this. He balling out at moment but not much NBA game film on him yet. Got to be patient. I have heard Favors is the cornerstone Hayward is the cornerstone Rudy is the cornerstone and Exum is the cornerstone. Now we know now this is not the case and another thing to be legitncontenders we going need more then Rudy and Mitchell. We need some more high draft picks since no big name free agent is ever coming to SLC. Lets face that truth. It has never happened before so I highly doubt it never happens. NBA players just don't like Utah. Need to draft right and look at foreign market because they don't view Utah like the American players do.
Knowledgeofmine
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Come On. You jJust Now start watching NBA Ball or what? This is the most insane comment i Have ever seen and Im going single you out when he does Hit the Rookie Wall
You will be the last one and not because you are a sage. I've never seen a Jazz player do what Mitchell is doing right now. And how he does it is sustainable: his shots are falling and his form is terrific, he is explosive off the dribble and has great end-to-end speed, devastating hesitation dribble, can handle and finish well with his left hand, he Ds hard, and he is a willing and skilled passer that only gets better.
Everyone can be scouted, but this isn't fool's gold. For Christ's sake, he already has a higher career high than Hayward, then followed that up with averaging ~27 ppg since (and doing it while playing in perhaps the most lane-clogging lineup in the NBA).
Douchebag K
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Hey dummy, you do realize he's already the top of the scouting report and getting the oppositions no.1 defender ??
If you think what he's doing isn't real or sustainable you clearly haven't watched or understood much basketball.
I'd like to see him work on his left hand finishing and then maybe midrange jumper. But he has it, physically, mentally, emotionally
framer
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I have seen teams throwing doubles on him too. Hayward didn't get doubled until last year. Guy is 25 games into his career and drawing double teams. Nobody is doubling Ball, Kuzma, or Tatum. Tatum is having success because people are doubling OFF of him onto Kyrie.
Archie Moses
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Ok. Let's make a bet. If Mitchell has a 10 game stretch worse than his first 10 games this year, you win. If he doesn't, I win. What are we betting? Mind you, Lonzo Ball has the worst shooting % in NBA history. During Mitchell's first 7 games, his shooting % was literally twice as low as Ball's. No way is Mitchell going to play worse.
So you’re not sure about him certainly improving or not dropping off, you’re not certain about him being different than Hayward or Exum, but you’re certain about the power of the jinx?
Even if he’s scouted and, for argument’s sake, completely neutralized, that pays huge dividends for everyone else. Also, currently averaging 15 ppg more than Hayward and his career point average vs. Hayward’s is 2 points higher.
That son of a bitch, though. Prior to July 4 we were focused on landing our third star to make us a legit contender, but realistically knew we didn’t have one in sight. Little did we know we drafted that third star (first, really). Of course things would shake out a little differently but damn.
There are only two things that Hayward of last year is better at then DM. One was Hayward was ruthless efficiency - almost robotically efficient - and that raised his averages to make him an allstar. The other is Hayward's post game. And I would add a third that maybe a tie or slightly better is his passing. All other areas, DM is better. IN HIS FIRST YEAR!
What will he be in 7 years? He can be a high level star. Remember the superstars of today age out eventually and they are replaced by the young talent of today and Donovan is currently one of the best young talents of today.
What will he be in 7 years? He can be a high level star. Remember the superstars of today age out eventually and they are replaced by the young talent of today and Donovan is currently one of the best young talents of today.
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Archie Moses
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Hayward has a way better mid-range game. Mitchell doesn't really shoot anything but 3s or shots in the paint.
Douchebag K
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And doesn't that make him better tho ??