Does Jabari Parker have a chance at slipping past the 4th overall pick?

[yamers]

Do you really need duke's coach K to tell us that? Because his actions clearly showed that he has low faith in Parker's defense, coach K continuously subbed Parker out in the 4th quarter because he was getting absolutly destroyed on defense the entire time?

 

[Fabtrey]

not a chance

 

[jimmy eat jazz]

Vonleh's stock rising is the best thing evar, for two reasons IMO.

- picking him at 5 makes more sense, and gives us a solid chance at drafting an all-star
- growingly-higher chance of him sneaking into the top-4, giving us a blue-chip athlete

I was thinking about this in another thread, but I figured I'd read all of your thoughts on it in a separate thread:

I am praying -- PRAYING -- for very poor tryout-performances from Jabari Parker. It seems like he'd never get past Philly-- and if he did, he'd never get past Orlando. But, crazier **** has happened.

1) Embiid 2) Wiggins 3) Vonleh 4) Exum

pipe-dream I'm sure….but again: crazier **** has happened. These picks all make sense for the teams picking them. Orlando is pretty much set with promising youth at every position except point-guard. Exum/Oladipo/Afflalo/Harris/Vucevic is a strong core. Very, very strong IMO. Afflalo at SF > whoever they have at PG. Not to mention the fact that it has often been said that Orlando has heavily scouted Exum.




Given that Jabari Parker could have the most to lose in terms of measurements and athleticism in the top 4, what is the chance that he falls to us?

It may be worth recalling that last year no one really thought it would be realistic to get Burke. I still think this scenario is quite unlikely but stranger things have happened.

 

[infection]

The last time a Polynesian, or at least someone who looked Polynesian, was drafted high was Michael Olowokandi. Drafting a player of mixed race from the SEC at #5 has never turned out to be an all-star and has resulted in zero titles. The last Mormons drafted in the lottery were Shawn Bradley and Jimmer. The former is now out of the league and the latter is on his way out. There's never been a half-Tongan SF from Chicago to lead their team to a championship. Never. If Jabari weren't Mormon, we'd think burning our 35 on him would be a bit of a reach. If our pick comes up and Jabari is on the board, you take Aaron Gordon. You can't teach athleticism.

 

[Sexual Favors]

Favors/Gobert
Kanter
Parker/Williams
Hayward/Burks
Burke/Neto/Garrett

Then look at backup PF depth, a 3rd string big and a 3rd string wing to play SG and SF. That is 13 players...or even a starting big and make Kanter a backup...

Hire Messina and get ready for some growth and wins.

I like that team, but I would think we needed backup C depth, as Favors far more impactful defending PF's where he isn't undersized. Plus, Parker might be playing PF defensively.

 

[Stoked]

The last time a Polynesian, or at least someone who looked Polynesian, was drafted high was Michael Olowokandi. Drafting a player of mixed race from the SEC at #5 has never turned out to be an all-star and has resulted in zero titles. The last Mormons drafted in the lottery were Shawn Bradley and Jimmer. The former is now out of the league and the latter is on his way out. There's never been a half-Tongan SF from Chicago to lead their team to a championship. Never. If Jabari weren't Mormon, we'd think burning our 35 on him would be a bit of a reach. If our pick comes up and Jabari is on the board, you take Aaron Gordon. You can't teach athleticism.

Hahahaha, well played.

 

[spycam1]

We need to help fuel the idea that Jabari is a fat, slow, unathletic, overrated shooter who couldn't guard Roger Braille.

Go forth to the four corners of the interwebs, and preach this, my sons. A smokescreen we must create.

 

[Stoked]

I like that team, but I would think we needed backup C depth, as Favors far more impactful defending PF's where he isn't undersized. Plus, Parker might be playing PF defensively.

There you go.

Grab a starting C/Gobert and Favors/Kanter at PF.

 

[cowhide]

The last time a Polynesian, or at least someone who looked Polynesian, was drafted high was Michael Olowokandi. Drafting a player of mixed race from the SEC at #5 has never turned out to be an all-star and has resulted in zero titles. The last Mormons drafted in the lottery were Shawn Bradley and Jimmer. The former is now out of the league and the latter is on his way out. There's never been a half-Tongan SF from Chicago to lead their team to a championship. Never. If Jabari weren't Mormon, we'd think burning our 35 on him would be a bit of a reach. If our pick comes up and Jabari is on the board, you take Aaron Gordon. You can't teach athleticism.

It would be interesting to see the meltdown if Parker was at #5 and the Jazz took Gordon instead. It would be epic. I don't discount Parker dropping but I would be a little shock if Parker made it to 5. What is funny, is how the press theorizes that the Jazz want Parker because he is Mormon and how many Mormon Jazz fans pretend that it isn't a major reason why they want him. No one even knows where he falls on their board. I remember Parker be are #7 preseason on a mock draft.

I worry about the Mormon factor. Now don't go crazy, it is a compliment. Many Mormon athletes struggle with wanting to be involved in the church and be with their families so sports isn't always the biggest thing in their lives. Bradley even admitted to it. Many mormons go on missions and return don't have the same enthusiasm for sports. Now, I don't know if Parker is this way since he isn't going on a mission but perhaps Parker isn't as driven because he feels there are more important things that matter. Again, I don't know if this is true or not and it certainly is a generalization but I think you cannot entirely dismiss the idea.

 

[Deleted member 848]

So, the main idea of this thread is that we hope Parker is so unworthy of reputation that he will drop to us?

I'd say the main idea is postulating as to whether a player that was once considered "undroppable" in terms of draft-stock could drop to 5th overall.

 

[green]

so...what has caused parkers stock to drop?

Potential. Why draft a 5-10 time all star when you can draft a guy who "could" be a 5-10 time all star?

We all get way too caught up in meaningless parts of the game.

Jabari was the best player on a team that wasn't that good. The game will get easier for him at the next level once he gets caught up to speed.

 

[ema]

It's still too early, the stocks can certainly change dramatically.

Furthermore, it can change even at the very last moment, with teams making very surprising picks or a certain players falling out unexpectedly.

 

[homeytennis]

It's still too early, the stocks can certainly change dramatically.

Furthermore, it can change even at the very last moment, with teams making very surprising picks or a certain players falling out unexpectedly.

The quote about guarding the floor was made on the John Feinstein show during a stretch when Duke was struggling and Coach K blamed himself for notinstalling the proper fundamentals with his team. I think his brother had passed away in the past year or two and Coach K said that he was not focused on the task at hand. I thought Jabari got schooled in the Mercer loss in the NCAAs.

 

[The Fresh Prince]

My chalk would get white if we got Jabari at 5. ROCK solid

 

[Deleted member 848]

Jabari at 5.

bahahahahahahahahaha

 

[Dr. Jones]

You're doing it wrong, black-Dala. You STATE it WILL be DONE.. and that's it. None of this, "let's hold hands and pray that something likely won't happen, but then again, might.. so let's hope... "

 

[Beantown]

You're doing it wrong, black-Dala. You STATE it WILL be DONE.. and that's it. None of this, "let's hold hands and pray that something likely won't happen, but then again, might.. so let's hope... "

I thought you already said Adios.

 

[♪alt13]

if we got Jabari at 5. ROCK hard

getting moldy cause I didn't keep it clean

 

[Hotdog]

Lol @ people actually believing he could slide to 5.

It's not happening folks.

It's like everyone is losing their minds around here. Vonleh? Really? Picked ahead of Jabari? Very funny.

Jabari will be the best player in this draft. He should go 1. No way he goes past 3.


I can't wait to be bumping all these threads with the Jabari hate and Vonleh love. It's not even going to be close who is better.

 

[fishonjazz]

Top 3 will be embiid parker and wiggins in some order.

Always will be