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Does Lauri Get Traded?

Does Lauri Get Dealt Before The Season Starts?

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Handlogten's Heros said:
Scoot was horrid last year and is an on ball guy. Its a tremendous recipe for being bad. I also think they move Grant at some point. Ayton is a loser. Deni is the key there if they end up being good.
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I think if Portland ends up being good it's because Clingan plays ahead of Ayton and transforms their defense to respectable.
 
One thing to account for also is we have more continuity heading into this season. Current rookies are not likely to break into big rotation roles and we didnt add a player who is forced into starter minutes.

Hardy was able to pick up the pieces last year and it could be that we will match last years wins if FO doesnt intervene. Probably wont be a .500 team at 52 games this time though (third time the charm?).
 
KqWIN said:
We're going through our team worrying about Bazley and Eubanks ruining the tank. Have that same optimistic eye towards every team and suddenly no one can tank. Vets+depth is what wins games during the RS, that is the difference between this year and 22. 22 roster was littered with vets and depth, this roster is filled with inexperienced kids. Biggest case against the Jazz is Lauri and Sexton, both of which can be solved with divine intervention. That's all I'm saying.
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I don’t think you are interpreting what was said correctly… it is 100% because of Lauri and our top talent that we can win. The reason people think we will be awful is young and developing players will be so bad. Well what happens if that badness is covered up by a guy like Bazley or just a rookie being not bad? The other tanking teams don’t have our high end guys… so doing the same exercise doesn’t hit as hard.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I don’t think you are interpreting what was said correctly… it is 100% because of Lauri and our top talent that we can win. The reason people think we will be awful is young and developing players will be so bad. Well what happens if that badness is covered up by a guy like Bazley or just a rookie being not bad? The other tanking teams don’t have our high end guys… so doing the same exercise doesn’t hit as hard.
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Very very very well said.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
The average time a team misses the playoffs during a rebuild is 4-5 years, it's very rare for a team to miss the playoffs for more than 6-7 years in a row. We have already missed for 2, so missing another 2-3 years would be normal and anything more would be longer than expected.
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Not saying you're wrong, but I haven't seen any numbers like this before, so wondering where you're getting them.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I don’t think you are interpreting what was said correctly… it is 100% because of Lauri and our top talent that we can win. The reason people think we will be awful is young and developing players will be so bad. Well what happens if that badness is covered up by a guy like Bazley or just a rookie being not bad? The other tanking teams don’t have our high end guys… so doing the same exercise doesn’t hit as hard.
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I think worrying about Bazley and Eubanks says enough about our depth on it's own and shows how different the conversation is compared to 22. I'm looking at the decision to play Bazley or Cody and thinking that looks tanktastic. Of course anything can happen, but I'm just being real about the roster. No depth + young players is a good recipe for tanking regardless of the hypothetical, unlikely scenario where one of your rookies or replacement level guys does well.

You look at any of these other tanking rosters, you're also going to find hypothetical scenarios that could ruin the tank. I can understand the desire to tank more, but just level setting where we are right now, I can't see how there are 7-8 teams that are clearly worse than us if we give them the same optomism/pessimism we are giving our current roster.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I don’t think you are interpreting what was said correctly… it is 100% because of Lauri and our top talent that we can win. The reason people think we will be awful is young and developing players will be so bad. Well what happens if that badness is covered up by a guy like Bazley or just a rookie being not bad? The other tanking teams don’t have our high end guys… so doing the same exercise doesn’t hit as hard.
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I think there are multiple areas where improvement can happen from last year:
- JC and Kessler had down years so not out of the question they are better next year
- Collins was learning new system and already looked better at the end of last season
- Lauri had a horrible offseason before last year, so even if he was "about the same as previous year" it doesnt mean he doesnt have another step he can take. This time he skipped national team duties and isnt doing military service.
- Key, TH and Brice are no longer rookies, and its fair to assume that either they can be better next year or some our new rookies could break through into the rotation and play better than they did last season.
- Bazley, Lofton and even Juzang who had some nice moments at the end of last year could turn into a solid rotation player

There are plausible scenarios where next year's tank fails into another "mid year tank". Our defense being crap is the best hope for the tank and for it not being terrible probably requires more than one of TH, Bazley, Juzang etc. stepping up and being our next Tech and Dunn type glow ups.
 
framer said:
We still have that same team we had after the break, maybe even worse with THT being replaced by rookies.
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We have the same key players that led a team to a 15-5 record sans KO and Tech as well. The schedule in our awful back half was tough but also it’s Mickey Mouse March. Don’t take that portion of the schedule as gospel either way good or bad.
 
framer said:
We still have that same team we had after the break, maybe even worse with THT being replaced by rookies.
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Yeah but how much of that was lack of cohesion and continuity? Yanking 3 guys from rotation and putting guys like Hendricks and Brice in who looked like they didnt know where they are supposed to be or what they are supposed to do.

Basketball is a team sport and when you make major changes to the team it always looks messy at the beginning with roles, chemistry and rotations being lost.
 
HermanG said:
Yeah but how much of that was lack of cohesion and continuity? Yanking 3 guys from rotation and putting guys like Hendricks and Brice in who looked like they didnt know where they are supposed to be or what they are supposed to do.

Basketball is a team sport and when you make major changes to the team it always looks messy at the beginning with roles, chemistry and rotations being lost.
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Even with the same group as end of last year… tha approach in game 1 will be different than game 50
last year.
 
framer said:
We still have that same team we had after the break, maybe even worse with THT being replaced by rookies.
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That team fully quit after the trade. The FO was blatantly tanking and the team was pretty down after the trade and mostly threw in the towel. They also held a ton of guys out. I wouldn't base us on that.
 
I'm a firm believer of Hardy. Which is part of the reasons Danny has been shopping Kessler, bc losing that rim defense would eff up defensive rotations so much. If you'll remove his rim defense, this team will lose many close games it might win with him.

Then again, now Hardy has anyone close to Dunn's skill set and experience in the back court D so I'd guess Jazz defense will be a tough watch in many games

My prediction will be Lofton and Collier breaking into solid rotation minutes. Both of them are not great defenders but they try and are good in some facets of D. Both also make plays to their team mate so the bench might be surprisingly competitive against lesser teams especially.
 
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