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Donald Fires FBI Director who's investigating Russian Election Hacking
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Psst. You don't live in this country. Remember?
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DutchJazzer
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MAH FREE STUFF STOLEN FROM OTHERS!
Liberty is a lot more than not paying too much in taxes. I'd still actively call myself a libertarian if it wasn't infested with people who just don't want to pay taxes.
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is liberty the right to be left the **** alone?
DutchJazzer
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the state of being free within society from oppressive restrictions imposed by authority on one's way of life, behavior, or political views.
DutchJazzer
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the power or scope to act as one pleases.
"individuals should enjoy the liberty to pursue their own interests and preferences"
DutchJazzer
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those are leftie google definitions.
so you know what my interest and preferences are?
or do i get to decide them and be liberated?
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I do not mind paying taxes. My concerns revolve around 3 things.
1) Collect it equitably across the spectrum of income.
2) Reduce or eliminate loopholes and deductions for various esoteric things. Make the deductions make sense instead of fit special interests, and make it a standard "income" tax, regardless of the source of income. Also tax businesses in a way that makes sense (tax on profit or revenue and eliminate payroll taxes, which in essence is double-taxation)
3) How the taxes are used. Eliminate pet projects, pork, and ridiculous allocation. Fund social systems including health-care, medicare/medicaid, and social security. Fund infrastructure and other projects that benefit society as a whole.
1) Collect it equitably across the spectrum of income.
2) Reduce or eliminate loopholes and deductions for various esoteric things. Make the deductions make sense instead of fit special interests, and make it a standard "income" tax, regardless of the source of income. Also tax businesses in a way that makes sense (tax on profit or revenue and eliminate payroll taxes, which in essence is double-taxation)
3) How the taxes are used. Eliminate pet projects, pork, and ridiculous allocation. Fund social systems including health-care, medicare/medicaid, and social security. Fund infrastructure and other projects that benefit society as a whole.
lol, good luck with that one.
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How about the liberty to cross borders? The liberty to live in a city without having to produce your papers to some stooge.
No, people usually only want liberty to be used how they think it should be used.
Dutch doesn't have time for that. He knows better
And most of them focus on taxes. Liberty from taxes.
http://www.inquisitr.com/4478189/evidence-donald-trump-pee-tape-real-russian/?utm_content=inf_11_3140_2&source=se&utm_source=se&utm_campaign=se&utm_medium=fb&tse_id=INF_41fb8330928411e7a7253d7eefa2109b
Pee tape, anyone?
*The above link is fake news
Pee tape, anyone?
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*The above link is fake news
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If we don't talk about change it can't ever happen. No reason we cannot have realistic and idealistic expectations.
I fully agree. It just wont happen. That agency is hurting, bad. And with the current climate it is only getting worse.
Not sure you really think the link is fake news.
The investigation is dead, still.
At this point in time, if such a tape were rolled out, it'd have to be dissected by video photo-shop artists and various rogue agencies to prove it's real, and still nobody cares.
Not in the least.
Not sure how long the lib panic attack over election 2016 will last. All I know, really, is that all the hysteria is creating thousands more republicans every day from disgusted dems who are just sick of it.
Let the man do his job.
I want to roll back the IRS into oblivion, do away with federal income tax and all the social programs that comprise our "economic parachute" or safety net. People do better taking care of themselves.
Sure, it won't happen, until it happens. Come Lord Jesus.
Federal government does everything bad, worse than the average state. yah yah... log's in SoCal now, working for The Man. Sure he feels the bite anyway.
State governments do everything bad, worse than the average county.
City governments do everything bad, worse than the average city or unincorporated district.
all governments do worse than my wife does with money.
Why do politicians always do worse than the worst imaginable alternative?
That's right. I said I wanted all that stuff just gone.
When I was 18 I figured it'd go away when the gov got broke. Never counted on it. The day I can't get up and sweet talk my cows into the feedlot is the day I'll go take a nap on the crow's nest pinnacle, and will my bones to the coyotes.
yep. somebody's gonna say something like I'm crazy or whatever, maybe send the sheriff out to round me up and put me in a care center. No way. The sheriff retired, nobody else knows who I am. I don't know how many fringe rebels and off-gridders took shots at him, but he lived and moved outta the state. Nobody knows where to. I think he got himself his own refuge.
The other place I know where people are done with all that is under the freeway overpasses and in the camps like Stockton CA has.... a hundred acres of tents... probably as good as Burning Man.