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Donald Fires FBI Director who's investigating Russian Election Hacking

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH HAHAHAHA liberal joy!
it is more funny then seeing reaction of people when hillary lost!!!!!!!!!!

hahahaha
 
Thi
What I said you claimed was "in my head" because you wrote:

You're the one who added "whole government" to that last post, not me. Are you trying to back off your claim by suggesting that I claimed you went even farther than you did? Nice try.

You read it as I meant a take over of the government. It was not. That was in your head. I'm sorry you misunderstood. In context of what we were talking about, my statement stands true; No incoming administration has taken over diplomacy before swearing in of a new President.

A president-elect has no official power. Even fox news admits to that http://www.foxnews.com/politics/200...s-office-president-elect-holds-authority.html

The Presidential Transition Act -- created in 1963 and amended in 2000 -- establishes formal provisions for the transition period by outlining training and other assistance that the president-elect and his team of advisers can receive as they prepare to assume office.

The amended bill -- co-sponsored by lawmakers including former Sen. Fred Thompson, Sen. Joe Lieberman, and Sen. Dick Durbin -- calls for the "training and orientation of high-level presidential appointees," among other things, as well as more efficient background checks to ensure individuals are properly vetted and confirmed for office.

As far as editing my post goes, I did so because without further clarity, I knew your vindictiveness would embody itself in the form of the ultimate warrior(RIP), running wild!

It appears I still did not make it clear enough. I did not try to hide that I edited the post; merely clarify exactly what I was saying. Any private citizen making diplomatic efforts abroad is guilty of violating the Logan act. No one has been indicted on that since the 1800's because it's unanimously accepted poor form and bad practice.

Dangerous and careless, these acts not only undermine a sitting President's administration, but also depreciates the authority of the office of the POTUS internationally well into the new administration, if not further. In this scenario, one sitting administration placed sanctions on Russia for interfering in our election. The act of placing those sanctions was completely legal and acceptable. Don't try to say they didn't. It's not just our intelligence communities that agree, but many abroad too. It's been reported that the new administration looked at lifting those sanctions in the first few days. Reported in June that they attempted to lift those sanctions in secret in June.

Considerations as the current scenario played out:

What kind of message does that send to Russia? The rest of the world? Doesn't that undermine our power at large? Who's next to not care if the U.S. sanctions, they're not really gonna do anything about it. China? Go ahead... influence our elections. The person you pick to win is just gonna ignore/try to lift those sanctions anyway. No, really! The NOT-US Ambassador said so just now.

Considerations in any scenario:

You're the President. You sanction a country(we'll say Pakistan) for maybe mass manufacture of unregulated aerosal carfentanil; which is an elephant analgesic that can and has been used as a chemical agent(Moscow theater). There is no safe dosage of carfentanil for in humans. We know this happened because the intelligence community(national and international) intercepts conversations between the Pakistani government and Columbia. After that's announced, the incoming president tells his man to talk at the Columbian ambassador, and tells him "Yeah, but we don't believe/don't care. Once our boy gets in, it's not going to matter".

What's the current administration supposed to do here? Let them continue to peddle unregulated chemicals that are being sold weapon ready? Wait another month to let the incoming President deal with it, while it slithers it's way through Latin America and into our borders? Remember; the incoming president either doesn't believe it, or doesn't care. You now have a pressing matter, whether it's being sold as chemical weapons abroad, or very dangerous opiates internally.

Making it simpler:

You score a contract for.. whatever it is you do. It ends in 3 months. You get word of your replacement. You set aside time to train him. You see that there's something that needs your attention immediately, and you handle it. Your replacement, who has not started yet and not received training on how to address these issues, or even what these issues are, addresses the situation in a dismissive manner.

This is NOT as simple as "Hey, we're coming in and we're gonna make it ok". Any number of leadership issues can occur here. If you don't see the extreme issue you're stupid. If you don't see the subtle issues here, you probably should just shut up. This slope is entirely too slippery to have cowboys coming in doing what they think is right.
 
Mueller knows what he has in Flynn. The question is why did Flynn lie. The President points out that Flynn did not need to lie. But that is actually not likely to be the case at all. It's likely Flynn did need to lie. Exactly why is still open. But Mueller gave Flynn a fantastic plea deal. 0-6 months and a small fine. And his son is so far not indicted. Assuming Mueller knows what he has in Flynn, the reason(s) for lying is likely to be a very big deal in its ramifications for President Trump. It's not likely Flynn gets that kind of plea deal without Mueller getting a great deal in return. And the return on Mueller's investment might have to do with the reason(s) Flynn lied.

Also of interest is that Flynn may have been wearing a wire:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/dec/03/michael-flynn-plea-agreement-mueller-russia
 
Mueller knows what he has in Flynn. The question is why did Flynn lie. The President points out that Flynn did not need to lie. But that is actually not likely to be the case at all. It's likely Flynn did need to lie. Exactly why is still open. But Mueller gave Flynn a fantastic plea deal. 0-6 months and a small fine. And his son is so far not indicted. Assuming Mueller knows what he has in Flynn, the reason(s) for lying is likely to be a very big deal in its ramifications for President Trump. It's not likely Flynn gets that kind of plea deal without Mueller getting a great deal in return. And the return on Mueller's investment might have to do with the reason(s) Flynn lied.

Also of interest is that Flynn may have been wearing a wire:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/dec/03/michael-flynn-plea-agreement-mueller-russia
ususally when you go on a witch hunt, at the end of the witchhunt the only "crime" that seems to be commited is lying to the investigators, who are searching for crimes that are not there!
 
ususally when you go on a witch hunt, at the end of the witchhunt the only "crime" that seems to be commited is lying to the investigators, who are searching for crimes that are not there!
Bill Clinton lied about his affair with Monica Lewinsky. The affair itself was not a crime. Was the impeachment of Clinton for lying and obstruction of justice a witch hunt or something that Congress was correct to be concerned about?
 
Bill Clinton lied about his affair with Monica Lewinsky. The affair itself was not a crime. Was the impeachment of Clinton for lying and obstruction of justice a witch hunt or something that Congress was correct to be concerned about?

And for the benefit of the Joes out there, I felt strongly that Clinton should leave office for lying to the American people. In his press conference where he unequivocally denied sexual relations with Lewinsky, he looked the U.S. people straight in the eye and lied to us. It's unacceptable and it doesn't matter what party the person belongs to.

Trump has done far far worse and yet it is becoming normal. We shrug it off.
 
Bill Clinton lied about his affair with Monica Lewinsky. The affair itself was not a crime. Was the impeachment of Clinton for lying and obstruction of justice a witch hunt or something that Congress was correct to be concerned about?


Clinton did not have an affair, he abused his power to get a intern to do things fearing she would lose her job, did those things!
 
And for the benefit of the Joes out there, I felt strongly that Clinton should leave office for lying to the American people. In his press conference where he unequivocally denied sexual relations with Lewinsky, he looked the U.S. people straight in the eye and lied to us. It's unacceptable and it doesn't matter what party the person belongs to.

Trump has done far far worse and yet it is becoming normal. We shrug it off.

I was still in school at the time. I had a really hard time understanding how he was impeached and still stayed in office. Understanding it at least a little better, he should have had the dignity to step down. He didn't.
 
All reports are that it was consensual. Even Monica's.
Right. So not illegal or anything. It was that he lied to the people about it. Had he just said "I'm not going to answer questions about that subject. Next question." Then I'm okay with that. But he decided to lie on the record. Not okay.
 
Bill Clinton lied about his affair with Monica Lewinsky. The affair itself was not a crime. Was the impeachment of Clinton for lying and obstruction of justice a witch hunt or something that Congress was correct to be concerned about?
even if it was fully consensual and not under abuse of power structure between Clinton and a lowly intern.
All reports are that it was consensual. Even Monica's.
have you spoken to ehr recnetly, the last few interviews it seems she changed her tune!\

consensual, as in not feeling like you are in the position to say no!
if you know what that means!


like if i live in your house and you come and have sex with me, i might think hmm if i say no i will be living in the street tonight. so i cannot say no. so i bend over! and tell you take me!

that is kinda consensual, but is it?
 
Thi


You read it as I meant a take over of the government. It was not. That was in your head. I'm sorry you misunderstood. In context of what we were talking about, my statement stands true; No incoming administration has taken over diplomacy before swearing in of a new President.

A president-elect has no official power. Even fox news admits to that http://www.foxnews.com/politics/200...s-office-president-elect-holds-authority.html



As far as editing my post goes, I did so because without further clarity, I knew your vindictiveness would embody itself in the form of the ultimate warrior(RIP), running wild!

It appears I still did not make it clear enough. I did not try to hide that I edited the post; merely clarify exactly what I was saying. Any private citizen making diplomatic efforts abroad is guilty of violating the Logan act. No one has been indicted on that since the 1800's because it's unanimously accepted poor form and bad practice.

Dangerous and careless, these acts not only undermine a sitting President's administration, but also depreciates the authority of the office of the POTUS internationally well into the new administration, if not further. In this scenario, one sitting administration placed sanctions on Russia for interfering in our election. The act of placing those sanctions was completely legal and acceptable. Don't try to say they didn't. It's not just our intelligence communities that agree, but many abroad too. It's been reported that the new administration looked at lifting those sanctions in the first few days. Reported in June that they attempted to lift those sanctions in secret in June.

Considerations as the current scenario played out:

What kind of message does that send to Russia? The rest of the world? Doesn't that undermine our power at large? Who's next to not care if the U.S. sanctions, they're not really gonna do anything about it. China? Go ahead... influence our elections. The person you pick to win is just gonna ignore/try to lift those sanctions anyway. No, really! The NOT-US Ambassador said so just now.

Considerations in any scenario:

You're the President. You sanction a country(we'll say Pakistan) for maybe mass manufacture of unregulated aerosal carfentanil; which is an elephant analgesic that can and has been used as a chemical agent(Moscow theater). There is no safe dosage of carfentanil for in humans. We know this happened because the intelligence community(national and international) intercepts conversations between the Pakistani government and Columbia. After that's announced, the incoming president tells his man to talk at the Columbian ambassador, and tells him "Yeah, but we don't believe/don't care. Once our boy gets in, it's not going to matter".

What's the current administration supposed to do here? Let them continue to peddle unregulated chemicals that are being sold weapon ready? Wait another month to let the incoming President deal with it, while it slithers it's way through Latin America and into our borders? Remember; the incoming president either doesn't believe it, or doesn't care. You now have a pressing matter, whether it's being sold as chemical weapons abroad, or very dangerous opiates internally.

Making it simpler:

You score a contract for.. whatever it is you do. It ends in 3 months. You get word of your replacement. You set aside time to train him. You see that there's something that needs your attention immediately, and you handle it. Your replacement, who has not started yet and not received training on how to address these issues, or even what these issues are, addresses the situation in a dismissive manner.

This is NOT as simple as "Hey, we're coming in and we're gonna make it ok". Any number of leadership issues can occur here. If you don't see the extreme issue you're stupid. If you don't see the subtle issues here, you probably should just shut up. This slope is entirely too slippery to have cowboys coming in doing what they think is right.
My vindictiveness? Oh, you're so picked on because I suggested that you were claiming Trump was taking things over ahead of schedule when you said that he was taking complete control.My apologies for hurting your feelings.

I think you are overreacting to a lot of stuff simply because you don't like Trump. I don't like him either, but I think that all of this overreaction is a terrible strategy.
 
My vindictiveness? Oh, you're so picked on because I suggested that you were claiming Trump was taking things over ahead of schedule when you said that he was taking complete control.My apologies for hurting your feelings.

I think you are overreacting to a lot of stuff simply because you don't like Trump. I don't like him either, but I think that all of this overreaction is a terrible strategy.
actually the overreaction is a good strategy to get him re-elected!
 
And for the benefit of the Joes out there, I felt strongly that Clinton should leave office for lying to the American people. In his press conference where he unequivocally denied sexual relations with Lewinsky, he looked the U.S. people straight in the eye and lied to us. It's unacceptable and it doesn't matter what party the person belongs to.

Trump has done far far worse and yet it is becoming normal. We shrug it off.
If what you are saying is true then I commend you. I recall having conversations (I thought they were with you) where I was told that the president's sex life was immaterial to his job. If it wasn't you it was someone a lot like you who believed that Bill's affairs and Hillary's reactions to the affairs (specifically the way she characterized the women) was immaterial to either of them as president. Seems that most of the Dems and nearly everyone else is rethinking those sorts of positions. It's about time.
 
I found evidence of violation of the Logan act and collusion!

FINALLY LOCK HIM UP!

Xi-meets-Obama-discusses-China-US-ties.jpg


as you see her ein this picture a citizen of the united states is colluding with a foreign government official, the most powerfull man since mao in china!

LOCK HIM UP /s


ok i think the Logan act is stupid! bu tif you want a scalp for the logan act HERE you have the cold hard evidence!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and if you guys are not screaming for obama to be locked up dont scream for trump to be locked up! JUSTICE FOR ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Right. So not illegal or anything. It was that he lied to the people about it. Had he just said "I'm not going to answer questions about that subject. Next question." Then I'm okay with that. But he decided to lie on the record. Not okay.
Clinton is accused non-consensual sexual advances toward a number of other women, though. Including rape.
 
If what you are saying is true then I commend you. I recall having conversations (I thought they were with you) where I was told that the president's sex life was immaterial to his job. If it wasn't you it was someone a lot like you who believed that Bill's affairs and Hillary's reactions to the affairs (specifically the way she characterized the women) was immaterial to either of them as president. Seems that most of the Dems and nearly everyone else is rethinking those sorts of positions. It's about time.

The president's consensual legal sex life has nothing to do with their job qualifications. Are you not getting that my issue is with the lying?
 
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