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Al-O-Meter said:
50.1% is the will of the people and that does not change the US Constitution. The Constitution can be changed but the changes themselves are guided by the Constitution which is why a 50.1% will of the people can't do it.

Ding! Ding! Ding! What you are describing is 'social contract theory'. So long as people believe there is a chance the system could go in their direction someday, maybe not this election, maybe not the next, but someday, they'll keep the system in place. If they think the game is now rigged and there is no hope, no chance things will go their way then they are going to want something else to take its place. More than once you've said that you don't care if half the country believes the social contract is broken so long as it is the half you don't like. Be careful what you wish for.
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If they are so ****ing stupid as to think that's the case I guess idiots will be idiots.

Living in the U.S. is a pretty sweet deal.
 
Sardines said:
The reason AI-O-Meter thinks this horrible change will result in no Republican get elected is because it means more people will have their vote counted.

What I would say is that political parties need to meet the voters where they are if they want to be relevant. For instance, the Guns and Dope party probably appeals strongly to some voters, but they will never win a national election (aka the Presidential election). Is that unfair? No! They don't have a broad enough appeal to be relevant. The system shouldn't be arranged to provide equal results to every party, it should be arranged so that the maximum amount of voters is represented in the results.

The Republican party has sought over and over again in recent years to rule, not to represent. Abortion rights is a prime example. Even within their own party total bans or almost total bans on abortion is not the favored position of the majority of their voters, yet, they have tried hard to get the most aggressive bans possible despite the will of the people. This has included trying to pass laws to remove the potential for the people in their state to change the state constitution in order to protect abortion access. They wanted the voters to vote to lose their power over their own government. The Republicans sought to rule the people in total disregard for what those people wanted.

Both major parties have evolved over time. So much so that things that were the defining characteristics of each party 100 years ago are now the defining characteristics of the other party. So it is possible that in 25 years the Democratic party will be most popular amongst rural voters and the Republican party will be most popular in urban areas and amongst multi-ethnic people. None of the current base of a party is set in stone. So these rules that AI-O-Meter thinks solidifies the Democratic party forever only holds true if the Republican party never makes any attempt to appeal to a wider segment of the U.S. population. That's on the Republican party.

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If national politics was an online game the chat would tell the Republican party

"git gud"
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Good post.

Republicans hate freedom. They are haters. Kind of like the guys who try to keep e-bikers off mountain bike trails. They want to control others to inflate their misguided ego.
 
Look forward to reading the discussion from today when I have time, as much as it will pain me. I enjoy these insights from you guys.
 
Sardines said:
If they are so ****ing stupid as to think that's the case I guess idiots will be idiots.

Living in the U.S. is a pretty sweet deal.
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It’s all about feelings.

They feel that the 2020 election was stolen
They feel that vaccines don’t work
They feel that crime is up, the economy is bad, and that immigrants are taking their jobs
Now they feel like they can’t win elections anymore.

Feel feel feel.

Never mind the ACTUAL oppression that women, LGBTs, and you know, African Americans experience. It’s crazy how some of the descendants of the architects of Jim Crow now feel oppressed.


North Carolina Rep. Dan Bishop (R) compared former President Trump’s current legal situation to that of a Black person in the segregated South.

“It’s as bad as it was in Alabama in 1950 … if a person happened to be Black, in order to get justice,” Bishop said Monday on “The Pete Kaliner Show” on Charlotte radio station WBT. “And that’s what they did in New York. So it was fundamentally rigged, and the people who attacked me for saying so can attack all they want.”

In the end, MAGA is merely a white grievance cult. They want to feel like martyrs and they want to lash out at others. They are just ****** people, people like @Al-O-Meter are just low info ****** people.
 
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str8line said:
Good post.

Republicans hate freedom. They are haters. Kind of like the guys who try to keep e-bikers off mountain bike trails. They want to control others to inflate their misguided ego.
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Oh no, they love their freedom. You know, their freedom from the Mexicans and from the blacks and from the gays. They believe everyone is equal, but they are just more equal than others because they have, uh, flags and ****. But they are coming to take away their freedoms. Those people are moving into their neighborhoods and wrecking up the place. The Republicans are the party of the Karen's.
 
The Thriller said:
Just a reminder, Trump didn’t want to visit veteran cemeteries because he thinks they’re losers.
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That never happened, but you know was did happen? Biden pooped himself at the D-Day ceremony and had to be led away by Jill Biden. This article is kind when they said Biden tried to sit on invisible chair but even the link url for the story ends in 'normandy-poop-pants'.

www.express.co.uk

Joe Biden tries to sit on 'invisible chair' during D-Day memorial event

President Joe Biden participated in the the 80th anniversary of US-led allied forces' D-Day invasion of Nazi-occupied France in Normandy.
www.express.co.uk www.express.co.uk
 
Al-O-Meter said:
That never happened, but you know was did happen? Biden pooped himself at the D-Day ceremony and had to be led away by Jill Biden. This article is kind when they said Biden tried to sit on invisible chair but even the link url for the story ends in 'normandy-poop-pants'.

www.express.co.uk

Joe Biden tries to sit on 'invisible chair' during D-Day memorial event

President Joe Biden participated in the the 80th anniversary of US-led allied forces' D-Day invasion of Nazi-occupied France in Normandy.
www.express.co.uk www.express.co.uk
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Yes it did. What incentive would former CoS John Kelly have to lie about this?

www.nbcnews.com

John Kelly confirms Trump privately disparaged U.S. service members and veterans

Trump called fallen soldiers "suckers” and "losers" during his presidency, according to a 2020 report in The Atlantic.
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com

And it’s not like this comes as a surprise. Trump has said similar things before about veterans in public. Here he literally calls one a “loser.”
www.freep.com

Fact check: Donald Trump did call John McCain a loser

President Donald Trump called John McCain a loser at a televised event in 2015 and then, later that day, tweeted out a web post recapping the event.
www.freep.com

This is following the exact same argument you cultists are taking with the conviction. You act all surprised when you boy acts the way… well the way we’ve all come to expect. He is a classless convict. Your defending him just goes to show how classless you are. I certainly have nothing to fear if charter school advocates are as dumb as you are. You are a ****** person.
 
The Thriller said:
Yes it did. What incentive would former CoS John Kelly have to lie about this?

www.nbcnews.com

John Kelly confirms Trump privately disparaged U.S. service members and veterans

Trump called fallen soldiers "suckers” and "losers" during his presidency, according to a 2020 report in The Atlantic.
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com

And it’s not like this comes as a surprise. Trump has said similar things before about veterans in public. Here he literally calls one a “loser.”
www.freep.com

Fact check: Donald Trump did call John McCain a loser

President Donald Trump called John McCain a loser at a televised event in 2015 and then, later that day, tweeted out a web post recapping the event.
www.freep.com

This is following the exact same argument you cultists are taking with the conviction. You act all surprised when you boy acts the way… well the way we’ve all come to expect. He is a classless convict. Your defending him just goes to show how classless you are. I certainly have nothing to fear if charter school advocates are as dumb as you are. You are a ****** person.
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A portion of Biden’s speech today:


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BAoMdOFRBg


We know Trump’s speech would have been far shorter:

“Why are we honoring all these losers today?”


View: https://x.com/greattask/status/1798705432179220672
 
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The Thriller said:
Yes it did. What incentive would former CoS John Kelly have to lie about this?
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Both of the usual motives: money and he doesn't like Trump, but mostly money.

Trump fired him so he has no love for Trump, and he signed a book deal which this piece was promoting. The publish date on your linked article was Oct 3, 2023. The publish date of the book was also Oct 3, 2023.

Here is the book: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CKFFZ36Z/?tag=jazzfanzcom-20

There were cameras everywhere all the time. If Trump actually did a thing, we'd have seen it.

...But you know who did call military veterans "losers" on tape? Biden. @Red posted a link to it.
 
Al-O-Meter said:
Both of the usual motives: money and he doesn't like Trump, but mostly money.

Trump fired him so he has no love for Trump, and he signed a book deal which this piece was promoting. The publish date on your linked article was Oct 3, 2023. The publish date of the book was also Oct 3, 2023.

Here is the book: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CKFFZ36Z/?tag=jazzfanzcom-20

There were cameras everywhere all the time. If Trump actually did a thing, we'd have seen it.

...But you know who did call military veterans "losers" on tape? Biden. @Red posted a link to it.
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You and I both know that Kelly didn’t lie about this. And you though you don’t want to admit that I’m right, you know there are reasons why so many cabinet members hated working for Trump and aren’t supporting him for president again. It’s because they know he doesn’t have the intelligence, temperament, or character to be president. You’re just a piece of **** that likes trolling.

One thing I do want to make clear, no one leaves the Trump cult to make money. It’s far more advantageous to remain in the cult and grift the rubes, the sorry party of stupid.

Al-O-Meter said:
@Sardines , if you liked Joe Biden in Red's clip, you're really going to like this one:


View: https://x.com/alexbruesewitz/status/1796238643096601015
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Al knows. He just wanted to post a video with the n word in it. He’s the biggest racist on this website.

Sardines said:
He was quoting something.

I'm taking sound advice and putting you on ignore.
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Excellent advice. For a time I’ve read a few of his posts. Not anymore. Hopefully since all of us are ignoring him and OB has left the forum, AL finds somewhere else to post. Or at least force him to create yet another alt profile to annoy us with. He’s just a piece of garbage person.
 
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Al-O-Meter said:
Both of the usual motives: money and he doesn't like Trump, but mostly money.

Trump fired him so he has no love for Trump, and he signed a book deal which this piece was promoting. The publish date on your linked article was Oct 3, 2023. The publish date of the book was also Oct 3, 2023.

Here is the book: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CKFFZ36Z/?tag=jazzfanzcom-20

There were cameras everywhere all the time. If Trump actually did a thing, we'd have seen it.

...But you kno?w who did call military veterans "losers" on tape? Biden. @Red posted a link to it.
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Trump fired him? Sound less ridiculous please.
 
 
The Thriller said:
From Donald’s Vegas rally today. Classy, as usual. Always the ugliest, dumbest, and most classless people.


View: https://x.com/atrupar/status/1799962508033404948?s=46



View: https://x.com/atrupar/status/1799884814398500926?s=46



View: https://x.com/atrupar/status/1799891170253762731?s=46



View: https://x.com/atrupar/status/1799892636611817742?s=46



View: https://x.com/atrupar/status/1799893740812747157?s=46


https://x.com/atrupar/status/1799896681061732610?s=46
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So it would appear that all you have to do to get maga to cheer for you is use cuss words.
Bull ****, ******, son of a bitch. Then bask in the cheers. Then you have that woman with the F word on her shorts.

All the best words. No wonder the religious like trump so much.

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fishonjazz said:
So it would appear that all you have to do to get maga to cheer for you is use cuss words.
Bull ****, ******, son of a bitch. Then bask in the cheers. Then you have that woman with the F word on her shorts.

All the best words. No wonder the religious like trump so much.

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Trump has done one positive. He’s revealed to me how utterly fake and empty many American religions are. It’s been sad for me to watch many fellow Americans and LDS people who I’ve known for years, show me through their posts and actions how little they actually believe in Christianity and its teachings. I’d say at least half of every congregation is just there because it’s a social club. Not because they actually believe in being good people or believe in teachings of Christ.

And that’s if their church actually teaches of Christ. I’ve noticed increasingly over the past few years how often we teach (worship) past leaders, experiences, or politics over Christ. Speaking mostly from my own LDS example, I really don’t give a **** what some 19th century guy thought about marriage (while being married to multiple wives), or what the pioneers thought, or how tall a steeple should be. What did Christ think about telling the truth? Helping the poor?
 
The Thriller said:
Trump has done one positive. He’s revealed to me how utterly fake and empty many American religions are. It’s been sad for me to watch many fellow Americans and LDS people who I’ve known for years, show me through their posts and actions how little they actually believe in Christianity and its teachings. I’d say at least half of every congregation is just there because it’s a social club. Not because they actually believe in being good people or believe in teachings of Christ.

And that’s if their church actually teaches of Christ. I’ve noticed increasingly over the past few years how often we teach (worship) past leaders, experiences, or politics over Christ. Speaking mostly from my own LDS example, I really don’t give a **** what some 19th century guy thought about marriage (while being married to multiple wives), or what the pioneers thought, or how tall a steeple should be. What did Christ think about telling the truth? Helping the poor?
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Most religious people live a lie. Evangelicals are by far the worst. Forget about politics, I would think more religious people would speak out against Trump purely because he goes against everything they supposedly believe. Why doesn't the LDS church take a stand against this man poisoning our populace? This man who mormons overwhelmingly voted for in the last two elections. How pathetic is it that they claim to be righteous yet want this man as our leader? Guess who are by far the most anti-Trump? Yup, atheists.




www.pewresearch.org

5 facts about religion and Americans’ views of Donald Trump

Among religious groups, White evangelical Protestants continue to have the most positive opinion of Trump.
www.pewresearch.org www.pewresearch.org

A diverging bar chart showing that two-thirds of White evangelicals see Trump favorably.
 
str8line said:
Most religious people live a lie. Evangelicals are by far the worst. Forget about politics, I would think more religious people would speak out against Trump purely because he goes against everything they supposedly believe. Why doesn't the LDS church take a stand against this man poisoning our populace? This man who mormons overwhelmingly voted for in the last two elections. How pathetic is it that they claim to be righteous yet want this man as our leader? Guess who are by far the most anti-Trump? Yup, atheists.




www.pewresearch.org

5 facts about religion and Americans’ views of Donald Trump

Among religious groups, White evangelical Protestants continue to have the most positive opinion of Trump.
www.pewresearch.org www.pewresearch.org

A diverging bar chart showing that two-thirds of White evangelicals see Trump favorably.
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That poll is ancient, however there is a new poll from that same group this is really interesting. Biden supporters are far more self-centered while Trump supporters are far more likely to prioritize a family.

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Al-O-Meter said:
That poll is ancient, however there is a new poll from that same group this is really interesting. Biden supporters are far more self-centered while Trump supporters are far more likely to prioritize a family.

PP_2024.6.5_cultural-values_4-03.png
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Oh yeah, the party of family values who have as their orange God a raping, ***** grabbing, three time married philanderer who cheats with a porn star while his third wife(mail order) is pregnant. What were you saying about self-centered?
 
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