What's new
By:

Don't Ask, Don't Tell is officially history!!

KatieMCR

KatieMCR

Well-Known Member
It's official!! Don't Ask, Don't Tell is gone!! The senate passed the repeal today. John "McShame" McCain will be remembered as the angry old man who didn't want it repealed. This is a wonderful and long overdue day in America.

Link
 
lol

"Today's a very sad day," Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), a leading opponent of the measure. He blamed elite liberals with no military experience for pushing their social agenda on troops during wartime.
Click to expand...

Yet, the very same article says,

"This is one of the days where you really feel privileged to be in the U.S. Senate," said Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman (I-Conn.), the bill's lead sponsor. "There's been a lot of difficult times the last couple of years because it's so partisan to get anything done. But here we are, it came together. And it was bipartisan; we wouldn't have done it without the Republicans. We got something really good done. So I feel good about it."
Click to expand...

Wasn't this the same Joe Liberman who's been bashing the Democrats for the last few years? Wasn't this the same Joe Lieberman that helped campaign for the McCain/Palin abortion 2 years ago?

Wasn't this the same Joe Lieberman that left the D party to become Independent?

So maybe McCain is senile... Or he's just playing politics and complaining that ELITE DEMOS is what overturned this.

Of course AM radio and Fox will destroy Obama over this (even though he didn't vote. Being President, he's not exactly a senator anymore). Of course they'll also ignore the Republican help too.

Here's a question and the bigger issue that this will undoubtedly raise, if one can fight and die for this country, shouldn't they also be allowed to marry?
 
I have no problems with them getting rid of this. I will however say that I do suspect there will be some incidents now with openly gay soldiers. I hate to stereotype the military but homophobia seems to run rampant.
 
The low blow is the Republicans claiming they know more about the military or are more pro-military than Liberals.
From my experience, it's Republicans who like to send troops to war, and it's the Democrats who show more concern for them once they get home.
If sending troops to battle is pro-military....

This is a good day for gay Americans, and the Military. Let people serve that want to. That should be the American way, and now it is.
 
TheMulletMutilator said:
I have no problems with them getting rid of this. I will however say that I do suspect there will be some incidents now with openly gay soldiers. I hate to stereotype the military but homophobia seems to run rampant.
Click to expand...

There were incidents back in the 1940s-50s when troops were mixed racially, as well. No surprise or real problem there.
 
Some are making it sound as if gays weren't allowed serve before this ruling and obviously that's not the case. Don't ask, Don't tell simply tried to take the sexuality out of the equation. Working on military aircraft as a civilian at HAFB has given me a chance to get to know a wide variety of military personel and from the conversations I've had over the years I don't see this as a clear cut victory for the gay community. I'm almost certain that openly homosexual people are going to have a harder time serving than they did before. My guess is that ending Don't ask, Don't tell will have little to no effect in how gays serve in the military. The overwhelming majority will choose to keep it to themselves.
 
jazzman12 said:
Some are making it sound as if gays weren't allowed serve before this ruling and obviously that's not the case. Don't ask, Don't tell simply tried to take the sexuality out of the equation. Working on military aircraft as a civilian at HAFB has given me a chance to get to know a wide variety of military personel and from the conversations I've had over the years I don't see this as a clear cut victory for the gay community. I'm almost certain that openly homosexual people are going to have a harder time serving than they did before. My guess is that ending Don't ask, Don't tell will have little to no effect in how gays serve in the military. The overwhelming majority will choose to keep it to themselves.
Click to expand...

This +100. As someone with 4 years active duty and 6 years reserve time logged in the USAF I think its important that people understand that we already had gays in the Military. They also rarely were kicked out when "found out". Most that were released we released because they either openly were mocking the system or they wanted out and knew if they outted themselves they would be released.
 
GoJazz said:
This +100. As someone with 4 years active duty and 6 years reserve time logged in the USAF I think its important that people understand that we already had gays in the Military. They also rarely were kicked out when "found out". Most that were released we released because they either openly were mocking the system or they wanted out and knew if they outted themselves they would be released.
Click to expand...

Not true. About 600 - 700 were thrown out every year.
 
One Brow said:
There were incidents back in the 1940s-50s when troops were mixed racially, as well. No surprise or real problem there.
Click to expand...

This IMO is a totally different situation though. I guess I hope I get proven wrong on this one. But I have known my fair share of soldiers who are very homophobic.
 
great first gays ruin the sanctity of marriage(or whatever its called). now they ruin the military.
whats next? the nba will be ruined by the gays. as players iwll be forced to wear sexy gay atire to appeal to the gay crowd.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Share this page
Back
Top