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GVC said:
Wouldn't this imply that the Jazz are the better team, and should thus get the worse pick? Why would you advocate for this?
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Thought the same. The misbalance of conferences is only worsened by the draft. Case in point: Jazz get 11/12 pick and Brooklyn(Atlanta) gets the 15th. Works in our favor.
 
davidbenoit said:
Thought the same. The misbalance of conferences is only worsened by the draft. Case in point: Jazz get 11/12 pick and Brooklyn(Atlanta) gets the 15th. Works in our favor.
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League fixes that by making sure EC teams (cough, Cleveland) get lucky in the lottery).
 
Hard to say who the Pacers would take as they could probably use the help just about anywhere, but my guess is they'll go big with Hibbert and West hitting FA next year and nobody behind them.

I really think we'll just go BPA while being mindful that it will probably be a big as that's the strength of the lottery.
 
Avery said:
Hard to say who the Pacers would take as they could probably use the help just about anywhere, but my guess is they'll go big with Hibbert and West hitting FA next year and nobody behind them.
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Frank the Tank for them and we take Dekker.
 
Not exactly a great track record of an impact player being at #12 (though getting Burks at that position in 2011 has worked thus far).

[TABLE="class: alternate_rows, width: 100%, align: center"]
[TR="class: even"]
[TD="colspan: 5"]12th Overall NBA Draft Picks



[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd"]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Year[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Player[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Drafted From[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Drafted By[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: even"]
[TD]2013[/TD]
[TD]Steven Adams[/TD]
[TD]Pittsburgh[/TD]
[TD]Oklahoma[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd"]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]2012[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Jeremy Lamb[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Connecticut[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Houston[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: even"]
[TD]2011[/TD]
[TD]Alec Burks[/TD]
[TD]Colorado[/TD]
[TD]Utah[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd"]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]2010[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Xavier Henry[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Kansas[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Memphis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: even"]
[TD]2009[/TD]
[TD]Gerald Henderson[/TD]
[TD]Duke[/TD]
[TD]Charlotte[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd"]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]2008[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Jason Thompson[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Rider[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Sacramento[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: even"]
[TD]2007[/TD]
[TD]Thaddeus Young[/TD]
[TD]Georgia Tech[/TD]
[TD]Philadelphia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd"]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]2006[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Hilton Armstrong[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Connecticut[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]New Orleans[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: even"]
[TD]2005[/TD]
[TD]Yaroslav Korolev[/TD]
[TD]Rus. 1987[/TD]
[TD]LA Clippers[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd"]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]2004[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Robert Swift[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]CA HSSr.[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Seattle[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: even"]
[TD]2003[/TD]
[TD]Nick Collison[/TD]
[TD]Kansas Sr.[/TD]
[TD]Seattle[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd"]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]2002[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Melvin Ely[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Fresno St. Sr.[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]LA Clippers[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: even"]
[TD]2001[/TD]
[TD]Vladimir Radmanovic[/TD]
[TD]Yugoslavia 1980[/TD]
[TD]Seattle[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd"]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]2000[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Etan Thomas[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Syracuse Sr.[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Dallas[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: even"]
[TD]1999[/TD]
[TD]Alek Redojevic[/TD]
[TD]Barton Co. JC So.[/TD]
[TD]Toronto[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd"]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]1998[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Michael Doleac[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Utah[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Orlando[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: even"]
[TD]1997[/TD]
[TD]Austin Croshere[/TD]
[TD]Providence[/TD]
[TD]Indiana[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd"]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]1996[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Vitaly Potapenko[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Wright State[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Cleveland[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: even"]
[TD]1995[/TD]
[TD]Cherokee Parks[/TD]
[TD]Duke[/TD]
[TD]Dallas[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd"]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]1994[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Khalid Reeves[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Arizona[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Miami[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: even"]
[TD]1993[/TD]
[TD]George Lynch[/TD]
[TD]North Carolina[/TD]
[TD]LA Lakers[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd"]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]1992[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Harold Miner[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]USC[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Miami[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: even"]
[TD]1991[/TD]
[TD]Greg Anthony[/TD]
[TD]Nevada-Las Vegas[/TD]
[TD]New York[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd"]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]1990[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Alec Kessler[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Georgia[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Houston[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: even"]
[TD]1989[/TD]
[TD]Mookie Blaylock[/TD]
[TD]Oklahoma[/TD]
[TD]New Jersey[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd"]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]1988[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Harvey Grant[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Oklahoma[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Washington[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: even"]
[TD]1987[/TD]
[TD]Tyrone Bogues[/TD]
[TD]Wake Forest[/TD]
[TD]Washington[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd"]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]1986[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]John Williams[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Louisiana State[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Washington[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: even"]
[TD]1985[/TD]
[TD]Kenny Green[/TD]
[TD]Wake Forest[/TD]
[TD]Washington[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd"]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]1984[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Tim McCormick[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Michigan[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Cleveland[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: even"]
[TD]1983[/TD]
[TD]Darrell Walker[/TD]
[TD]Arkansas[/TD]
[TD]New York[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd"]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]1982[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]John Bagley[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]BostonCollege[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Cleveland[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: even"]
[TD]1981[/TD]
[TD]Kelly Tripucka[/TD]
[TD]Notre Dame[/TD]
[TD]Detroit[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd"]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]1980[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Mike Woodson[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Indiana[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]New York[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
 
Avery said:
Not exactly a great track record of an impact player being at #12 (though getting Burks at that position in 2011 has worked thus far).

[TABLE="class: alternate_rows, width: 100%, align: center"]
[TR="class: even"]
[TD="colspan: 5"]12th Overall NBA Draft Picks



[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd"]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Year[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Player[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Drafted From[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Drafted By[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: even"]
[TD]2013[/TD]
[TD]Steven Adams[/TD]
[TD]Pittsburgh[/TD]
[TD]Oklahoma[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd"]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]2012[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Jeremy Lamb[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Connecticut[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Houston[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: even"]
[TD]2011[/TD]
[TD]Alec Burks[/TD]
[TD]Colorado[/TD]
[TD]Utah[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd"]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]2010[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Xavier Henry[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Kansas[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Memphis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: even"]
[TD]2009[/TD]
[TD]Gerald Henderson[/TD]
[TD]Duke[/TD]
[TD]Charlotte[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd"]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]2008[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Jason Thompson[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Rider[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Sacramento[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: even"]
[TD]2007[/TD]
[TD]Thaddeus Young[/TD]
[TD]Georgia Tech[/TD]
[TD]Philadelphia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd"]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]2006[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Hilton Armstrong[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Connecticut[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]New Orleans[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: even"]
[TD]2005[/TD]
[TD]Yaroslav Korolev[/TD]
[TD]Rus. 1987[/TD]
[TD]LA Clippers[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd"]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]2004[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Robert Swift[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]CA HSSr.[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Seattle[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: even"]
[TD]2003[/TD]
[TD]Nick Collison[/TD]
[TD]Kansas Sr.[/TD]
[TD]Seattle[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd"]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]2002[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Melvin Ely[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Fresno St. Sr.[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]LA Clippers[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: even"]
[TD]2001[/TD]
[TD]Vladimir Radmanovic[/TD]
[TD]Yugoslavia 1980[/TD]
[TD]Seattle[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd"]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]2000[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Etan Thomas[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Syracuse Sr.[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Dallas[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: even"]
[TD]1999[/TD]
[TD]Alek Redojevic[/TD]
[TD]Barton Co. JC So.[/TD]
[TD]Toronto[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd"]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]1998[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Michael Doleac[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Utah[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Orlando[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: even"]
[TD]1997[/TD]
[TD]Austin Croshere[/TD]
[TD]Providence[/TD]
[TD]Indiana[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd"]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]1996[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Vitaly Potapenko[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Wright State[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Cleveland[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: even"]
[TD]1995[/TD]
[TD]Cherokee Parks[/TD]
[TD]Duke[/TD]
[TD]Dallas[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd"]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]1994[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Khalid Reeves[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Arizona[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Miami[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: even"]
[TD]1993[/TD]
[TD]George Lynch[/TD]
[TD]North Carolina[/TD]
[TD]LA Lakers[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd"]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]1992[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Harold Miner[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]USC[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Miami[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: even"]
[TD]1991[/TD]
[TD]Greg Anthony[/TD]
[TD]Nevada-Las Vegas[/TD]
[TD]New York[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd"]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]1990[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Alec Kessler[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Georgia[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Houston[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: even"]
[TD]1989[/TD]
[TD]Mookie Blaylock[/TD]
[TD]Oklahoma[/TD]
[TD]New Jersey[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd"]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]1988[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Harvey Grant[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Oklahoma[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Washington[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: even"]
[TD]1987[/TD]
[TD]Tyrone Bogues[/TD]
[TD]Wake Forest[/TD]
[TD]Washington[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd"]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]1986[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]John Williams[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Louisiana State[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Washington[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: even"]
[TD]1985[/TD]
[TD]Kenny Green[/TD]
[TD]Wake Forest[/TD]
[TD]Washington[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd"]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]1984[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Tim McCormick[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Michigan[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Cleveland[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: even"]
[TD]1983[/TD]
[TD]Darrell Walker[/TD]
[TD]Arkansas[/TD]
[TD]New York[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd"]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]1982[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]John Bagley[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]BostonCollege[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Cleveland[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: even"]
[TD]1981[/TD]
[TD]Kelly Tripucka[/TD]
[TD]Notre Dame[/TD]
[TD]Detroit[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd"]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]1980[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Mike Woodson[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]Indiana[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9E9E9"]New York[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
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I thought Steven Adams was a solid pick for OKC at 12th. That's all you can really ask for, a solid 3rd big.
 
fishonjazz said:
I don't buy that. Locke interviewed dante and named the other 19 year old rookies who started all 82 games. He only named like 6 dudes or something
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Locke's stat is starting PG's at age 19. There was six, and five ended up being All Stars. What Exum has accomplished by starting and having a winning record is pretty exciting.
 
addictionary said:
I think there should be a (if there isn't already) conference-toughness variable to calculate the odds. If Utah plays more against better win record teams (Western Conference) compared to Pacers, their record should be more valuable.
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So the Pacers record was inflated due to easier schedule. Meaning they should have more losses than the Jazz. Which means we lose the tiebreak.

Are you sure about this idea?
 
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