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Durant's decision has all but assured a long-term lockout

KD will opt out next year and get his 4 year max deal. Dubs will have the space cause cap is jumping considerably again
 
Ellis269 said:
I just don't see an NFL style cap.
Especially with the new money coming in.
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It'll have to happen if small teams will ever have a chance to win a championship. Okc, Utah. Denver. Minnesota will never win one asis.

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nateboz said:
Max contracts are the reason the NBA is a mess. Then you have rich teams spending millions over the cap. Small teams can't afford to overspend. The NBA is not a league for any team to win a championship. I'm actually ok with losing a season if it changes things.

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Max contracts benefit small market teams disproportionately. The Jazz could never hope to acquire a superstar without the provision. Never.
 
NUMBERICA said:
A hard cap means less money for players.
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No it doesn't. Players' share of revenue is unrelated to salary cap structure.

I agree on max contracts though -- there's no way the players will agree to do away with them.

Owners are making too much money to lock the players out. If they refuse to negotiate given their HUGE gains under the current CBA, the players will take them to court.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Max contracts benefit small market teams disproportionately. The Jazz could never hope to acquire a superstar without the provision. Never.
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It does not matter anyways because no superstar is ever going to sign with the Jazz anyways.

The NBA needs to find a way to bring more parity to the league, for it has by far the least parity out of all the major sporting leagues. I think that is the only way the Jazz ever have a chance.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Max contracts benefit small market teams disproportionately. The Jazz could never hope to acquire a seismic, transformational player without the provision.
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Hardly. They allow multiple stars to play together while all getting paid. Install a hard cap and teams would have to be smart with who they sign and for how much. It works in the nfl cause if you pay the wrong player you don't win. In the NBA you can now have 3 or 4 max players.

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nateboz said:
Hardly. They allow multiple stars to play together while all getting paid. Install a hard cap and teams would have to be smart with who they sign and for how much. It works in the nfl cause if you pay the wrong player you don't win. In the NBA you can now have 3 or 4 max players.

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And in the NFL, you have almost no multi-year guaranteed contracts. The players union would dissolve the league before giving those up.

Again, they'd have to redo the CBA from scratch to do what your proposing. That would assuredly lose a season, maybe worse. The players have the bargaining power this time.
 
NUMBERICA said:
And in the NFL, you have almost no multi-year guaranteed contracts. The players union would dissolve the league before giving those up.

Again, they'd have to redo the CBA from scratch to do what your proposing. That would assuredly lose a season, maybe worse.
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That's my point. If the league ever hopes to have parody this will have to happen. I personally know a bunch of people who don't watch the NBA cause they say it's fixed for large market teams. Look at the NFL. If you have quality coaching and a smart front office you win. There is no such thing as a rich team. Every team plays by the same rules and numbers.

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Ellis269 said:
I just don't see an NFL style cap.
Especially with the new money coming in.
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Who is the imbecile in the NFLPA who agreed to a 10 year CBA agreement? The NFL players gotta be watching this insanity and thinking they picked the wrong sport.
 
candrew said:
Who is the imbecile in the NFLPA who agreed to a 10 year CBA agreement? The NFL players gotta be watching this insanity and thinking they picked the wrong sport.
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Well, they did. The sport will be hemorrhaging potential talent as time goes on because it's one of the most dangerous things you can do in athletics.

Maybe these things are related.
 
Magic Spray said:
This should guarantee that 28 of the owners are going to vote to opt out of the CBA in 2017. They are going to try to put an end to super teams. Imagine how butt hurt all the teams that tried to build a contender with all the off season huge contracts only to have it snatched out of their hands and shoved up their asses.

Inb4 remember the 2004 Pistons.
Inb4 you still have to play the games.

However joyful it is for me to envision Kanter basically joining Guns n' Roses the day before Slash and Duff quit and Axl got fat, however much pleasure I get from thinking of those douch canoe owners that promised Seattle they woildn't move and then almost immediately they started packing up, it doesn't compare with the feeling that this is bad for basketball, and this is bad for the Jazz.

Owners are going to try to get the players over a barrel by ****ing with their money, it's the only way And it will mean an entire season or more gonzo.
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The players, who almost never have much public support to begin with, will have much less this go around.
 
dalamon said:
Unless players sign for vet-minimums in order to get those rings. That would ****ing suck
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So, let me get this straight.....we hate athletes that are greedy. But once they sacrifice money for winning, we hate them for wanting a ring? Got it. And don't even f******* start on me about loyalty. Ask Seattle about Clay Bennet's loyalty.
 
theonlyone said:
It does not matter anyways because no superstar is ever going to sign with the Jazz anyways.
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That's why the jazz need to get high draft picks whenever they can and then hit homeruns with those picks.
 
GVC said:
Why? You dont think people will recognize the ridiculous recent team sale prices?
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Perhaps, but I don't think people care about that at all. I do think if the owners frame it as they are trying to introduce more parity to the league and reduce these super teams that are forming they will win that battle.
 
As others have already said, both sides are raking in too much cash to justify a lockout.

Here's what will happen. I'm guessing the league will send a message through a first round exit with the most one-sided reffing ever seen on the planet. One way or another, the league will find a way to show their disapproval without the owners sacrificing their cash cow.
 
The only way it blows up is if either Curry or Durant get hurt and the depth guys suck ***. I guess that chemistry issues or KD realizing that his move hurts his legacy could lead to a situation where he moves to a new team next year. Wouldn't put it past him for this to be a one year test drive also.

Consider the pressure. They won't be less than being the clear-cut best team in the West and the overwhelming favorite to win the championship. The Cavs looked awful early on, fired their coach and put together an epic playoff run. If the Dubs stumble. . . it's going to be SO much more magnified now.
 
Hell yeah this lines up perfectly with the first year of my LDS mission. Miss as little basketball as possible.


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Rgiss said:
Hell yeah this lines up perfectly with the first year of my LDS mission. Miss as little basketball as possible.


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I'm telling your bishop that you said "Hell yeah".
 
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