Earl Watson anyone?

[Stifle Tower]

You're quite the ****, aren't you?

He based it on 200 or more wins and a higher than 50% winning percentage. One of the more successful paths was the player straight to coach path.

stats > your opinion

My apologies to both of you.
Just realized we are arguing different things here. The table I posted in the coaching search thread is not completely applicable. I looked at the winningest coaches in NBA history, but not winning %, which is a key part of Locke's analysis. What my table DOES show is that a coach with NO NBA experience has almost an equal chance of success. And even with pro basketball experience, it's often just a rotational player or scrub who succeeds over a HOF'er. Some of the ex-players on the list were assistants or had other coaching experience after their playing days, some did not.

The takeaway I get from Locke, is yes, it can be a successful route. But that road is littered with the bodies of many ex-players who didn't make the jump successfully. I'd rather see a guy come in who has a history of success and a wealth of experience.

 

[enchilada_style]

I think its pretty obvious there are better options still available we don't have to go with the fat chick right off the bat. Let the night mature, maybe we can bring home an 8 or a 9.

 

[fishonjazz]

I think its pretty obvious there are better options still available we don't have to go with the fat chick right off the bat. Let the night mature, maybe we can bring home an 8 or a 9.

This.
Great post btw

 

[Ellipse]

We have already tried the newbie, learn-on-the-job head coach. Could we please just bring in an experienced HC that can develop our young players NOW. We don't have another 3 years to waste while the coach learns his trade.

 

[The Thriller]

We have already tried the newbie, learn-on-the-job head coach. Could we please just bring in an experienced HC that can develop our young players NOW. We don't have another 3 years to waste while the coach learns his trade.

This.

Why not offer Lionel Hollins the job?

 

[VINYLONE]

This is exactly what the Kerr and Kidd signings have done to damage the coaching profession. Ex-players now think they should go straight to the front. Watson MIGHT become a good head coach someday. When he signed with Utah, I remember there was even talk of him finishing out his career and then becoming "a" coach. Even Hornacek had a few years as a part-time and then bench coach before making the jump.

And yes, AKMVP, Watson could do a WHOLE lot worse than Corbin.

I think I sort of agree with this. But then again, Mark Jackson makes me think otherwise.

 

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

I think I sort of agree with this. But then again, Mark Jackson makes me think otherwise.

What exactly did Jackson do that says he's a great coach? He underachieved, for how good that team is.


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[JazzTalk]

We have already tried the newbie, learn-on-the-job head coach. Could we please just bring in an experienced HC that can develop our young players NOW. We don't have another 3 years to waste while the coach learns his trade.

Totally agree. Bring Watson in as an assistant. I think he will make a great head coach one day.
Our young guys are prime for an experienced head coach to lead them now. I think we will be slowing their growth by bringing in someone who is learning the ropes as he coaches. It will be hurting our window of opportunity.


Originally Posted by VINYLONE
I think I sort of agree with this. But then again, Mark Jackson makes me think otherwise.

The difference is the Warrior's core group is experienced vets, ours is not.

 

[seattlejazzfan]

Speculating about coaches is fun and all, but the only real question is who Boylen wants as his assistants.

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[Stifle Tower]

I think I sort of agree with this. But then again, Mark Jackson makes me think otherwise.

He's certainly an exception.
I'm working on a more complete analysis. I think Locke was able to skew things one way to fit his argument.

 

[Stifle Tower]

speculating about coaches is fun and all, but the only real question is who boylen wants as his assistants.

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lol!

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Always hated Earl Watson on the Jazz, but I think he would make a good coach.

 

[Revolution 9]

Always hated Earl Watson on the Jazz, but I think he would make a good coach.

Asst. coach first....I would more than welcome him on our bench.

 

[The Thriller]

Not just a NO.

But a HELL NO.

Why not Lionel Hollins?

 

[Stoked]

No for the same reason I said no to Stockton. No real world coaching experience.

 

[Stifle Tower]

Anyone just see the report that Ollie is reportedly asking for $5M/per based on the contract given to Kerr? Figures he is worth more than Kerr as a coach with proven success.
Jazz may need to go to Plan B and bring in an inexperienced guy if they want to pay less than $5M/per for a contract shorter than 5 years.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Anyone just see the report that Ollie is reportedly asking for $5M/per based on the contract given to Kerr? Figures he is worth more than Kerr as a coach with proven success.
Jazz may need to go to Plan B and bring in an inexperienced guy if they want to pay less than $5M/per for a contract shorter than 5 years.

I agree, why do guys with no coaching experience expect so much money?

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

No for the same reason I said no to Stockton. No real world coaching experience.

He has essentially been an Asst. Coach his last 3 years in the NBA. I know it's still a leap, but I actually think he could do it. Pretty sure he has been preparing for this knowing he has wanted to coach for a while now.

Dudes like Jason Kidd seem like they just decided to coach on a whim when he realized he couldn't play anymore.

 

[The Thriller]

Anyone just see the report that Ollie is reportedly asking for $5M/per based on the contract given to Kerr? Figures he is worth more than Kerr as a coach with proven success.
Jazz may need to go to Plan B and bring in an inexperienced guy if they want to pay less than $5M/per for a contract shorter than 5 years.

There's no excuse for going with an inexperienced guy. With all the good coaches out of work and assistants looking for HC jobs, there's just no excuse.

 

[Stifle Tower]

I agree, why do guys with no coaching experience expect so much money?

Happens anytime a bidding war can be started. Same as with players.
Kerr actually got 5/$22.5M. So i can see how established coaches can justify asking for 5/$25M.

Jazz likely want a coach for 3 years at no more than $4M/per.