Ebola Outbreak

[Stoked]

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-29060239

More people have died form this Ebola outbreak then from all others combined and it is estimated to get worse. Much worse.

Over 3,900 people have been affected and 2,105 have died from it. They are seeing about 500 new cases a week and that number is increasing They expect it to branch out into new countries like Senegal and Cote d'Ivoire.

How bad do you all think this will get?

 

[LogGrad98]

Tough call. I think there are some naturally limiting factors that will at least keep it mostly contained to the general geographic region, such as limited airfare into and out of the affected countries to begin with (in other words, it's not like it is Beijing that is the center of all this), but at the same time the spread possible just from ground-based vectors is staggering.

 

[Stoked]

Tough call. I think there are some naturally limiting factors that will at least keep it mostly contained to the general geographic region, such as limited airfare into and out of the affected countries to begin with (in other words, it's not like it is Beijing that is the center of all this), but at the same time the spread possible just from ground-based vectors is staggering.

Good point. The air travel is limites but I wonder what the boat travel village to village up and down the coast of Africa is like. But it seems to not be quite as deadly (still over a 50% mortality rate) as before but it spreds easier from person to person. That is staggering.

 

[LogGrad98]

Good point. The air travel is limites but I wonder what the boat travel village to village up and down the coast of Africa is like. But it seems to not be quite as deadly (still over a 50% mortality rate) as before but it spreds easier from person to person. That is staggering.

From what I have read it isn't that the disease is less virulent, but rather that treatment has improved so they save more people. As it spreads out and thins the WHO's ability to help provide the same level of care, I think we will see more people die. The possibility of this spreading to the bulk of mainland Africa is scary as hell. The more area it covers the more likely it becomes that it moves off the continent. In more developed countries, as they state in the article, there is a better shot at containment, but due to the incubation period this could become very dangerous pretty quickly.

 

[fishonjazz]

due to the incubation period

Explain please

 

[DutchJazzer]

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-29060239

More people have died form this Ebola outbreak then from all others combined and it is estimated to get worse. Much worse.

Over 3,900 people have been affected and 2,105 have died from it. They are seeing about 500 new cases a week and that number is increasing They expect it to branch out into new countries like Senegal and Cote d'Ivoire.

How bad do you all think this will get?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gZ6bpIjeLs

 

[LogGrad98]

Explain please

It can take up to 21 days for the virus to show symptoms. Generally they give another few days to a week past that for observation of people who may have been exposed, which is where the whole "28 days later" scenario comes from. So you can have someone walking around fully infected and potentially infecting other people for 3 weeks after exposure.

 

[fishonjazz]

It can take up to 21 days for the virus to show symptoms. Generally they give another few days to a week past that for observation of people who may have been exposed, which is where the whole "28 days later" scenario comes from. So you can have someone walking around fully infected and potentially infecting other people for 3 weeks after exposure.

That sucks

 

[LogGrad98]

That sucks

Yeah, scary ****. And the ebola virus is the kind that, once it is contained it can be held contained fairly well, but running amok it can spread fast and far without really knowing the extent until people start showing up at hospitals sick and dying. It is one of the few natural pathogens out there that could truly decimate the population, even if just locally.

 

[franklin]

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-29060239

More people have died form this Ebola outbreak then from all others combined and it is estimated to get worse. Much worse.

Over 3,900 people have been affected and 2,105 have died from it. They are seeing about 500 new cases a week and that number is increasing They expect it to branch out into new countries like Senegal and Cote d'Ivoire.

How bad do you all think this will get?

Stoked bro, how long you've been pining to post a non-Fox Knews article about Ebola?

 

[dodo]

It can take up to 21 days for the virus to show symptoms. Generally they give another few days to a week past that for observation of people who may have been exposed, which is where the whole "28 days later" scenario comes from. So you can have someone walking around fully infected and potentially infecting other people for 3 weeks after exposure.

According what I read, one becomes infectious after showing symptoms. So before the accute period people are not infectious. Also since the vector is body fluids, you need direct contact with a sick person to get sick - that's why healthcare workers and family are the first to get sick. All that is limiting the spread to where infection control, poor healthcare facilities and poor hygiene is present...

 

[Stoked]

Stoked bro, how long you've been pining to post a non-Fox Knews article about Ebola?

Mostly I check Fox news for two reasons.

1 Work friendly.

And

2. Find out what Obama needs to be blanked for that day lol

 

[b_line]

What are the chances this Ebola stuff gets really out of hand? It would be a radically different world if even 10% of the population were to die from something like this.

 

[franklin]

Mostly I check Fox news for two reasons.

1 Work friendly.

And

2. Find out what Obama needs to be blanked for that day lol

Yeah. i was only playing up your "ohh shoot me itz faux news" theme.

 

[DutchJazzer]

What are the chances this Ebola stuff gets really out of hand? It would be a radically different world if even 10% of the population were to die from something like this.

it might solve some of the unemployment issue.
which i will give obama credit for

 

[Stoked]

From what I have read it isn't that the disease is less virulent, but rather that treatment has improved so they save more people. As it spreads out and thins the WHO's ability to help provide the same level of care, I think we will see more people die. The possibility of this spreading to the bulk of mainland Africa is scary as hell. The more area it covers the more likely it becomes that it moves off the continent. In more developed countries, as they state in the article, there is a better shot at containment, but due to the incubation period this could become very dangerous pretty quickly.

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/12/...ble-in-democratic-republic-of-congo.html?_r=0

There are now 62 confirmed cases with a direct link to the strain that is running rough shod over Sierra Leone, Liberia and other west african nations. Congo borders Zaire, Gabon, C.A.R. and Cameroon. Right into central Africa.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...r-surveillance-for-ebola-in-nigeria-oil-city/

Nigeria has over 400 people in quarantine with possible Ebola infection.

 

[Harambe]

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-29060239

More people have died form this Ebola outbreak then from all others combined and it is estimated to get worse. Much worse.

Over 3,900 people have been affected and 2,105 have died from it. They are seeing about 500 new cases a week and that number is increasing They expect it to branch out into new countries like Senegal and Cote d'Ivoire.

How bad do you all think this will get?

Yeah, but that's in Africa. Who gives a crap about those people when the Islamic state is in such disrepair.

 

[LogGrad98]

Yeah, but that's in Africa. Who gives a crap about those people when the Islamic state is in such disrepair.

Not me! I only care about one thing at a time. **** those africans with ebola.

 

[Stoked]

Some new info that does not look good.

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/e...70-percent-who-says-dire-new-forecast-n209226

It has risen to a 70% mortality rate (was previously 50%) and the WHO is now estimating 20,000 cases by November. That is much earlier than previously predicted.

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/24/...4-million-in-4-months-cdc-estimates.html?_r=0

The CDC is saying that there could be 20,000+ cases by 09/30/14 and 1.4 million by 01/20/15 in a worst case scenario.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/...st-finds-70million-people-risk-infection.html

Lists 22 nations at risk of ebola, 7 of which already have reported cases.

So it is spreading faster and killing more. I think the increase in mortality rate is becuase of the increasing % of untreated patients as healthcare systems are swamped

 

[LogGrad98]

Some new info that does not look good.

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/e...70-percent-who-says-dire-new-forecast-n209226

It has risen to a 70% mortality rate (was previously 50%) and the WHO is now estimating 20,000 cases by November. That is much earlier than previously predicted.

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/24/...4-million-in-4-months-cdc-estimates.html?_r=0

The CDC is saying that there could be 20,000+ cases by 09/30/14 and 1.4 million by 01/20/15 in a worst case scenario.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/...st-finds-70million-people-risk-infection.html

Lists 22 nations at risk of ebola, 7 of which already have reported cases.

So it is spreading faster and killing more. I think the increase in mortality rate is becuase of the increasing % of untreated patients as healthcare systems are swamped

This was predicted. In the early days the WHO can get in there with highly skilled folks to help direct care and save more people. As it spreads they get spread thinner as well and the care deteriorates. If it went anywhere near the worst case scenario it would end up being simple dying wards quarantined to keep it from spreading with little worry about actually treating sick people.