El Paso Shooting

[fishonjazz]

No because none of these are a constitutional right. None of these protect you from things like a tyrannical government, War, mass power outages and looting, global warming and looting, burglary, mass shootings, Trump, and I could go on. Hell, look around at our political climate and one could make an argument that we are in a form civil of war.

Does that mean I'm some paranoid "shadowboxer"? No. I sure as hell don't want any of this stuff to happen nor do I lose any sleep over it. I am prepared to defend myself if **** ever hits the fan though. As I said look at the history of humans. People have killed each other over a black Friday for hells sakes. Humans are not a stable being and we never have been. It sucks but it's true.

While I like your post it didn't address mine whatsoever.


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[JazzyFresh]

While I like your post it didn't address mine whatsoever.


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That's because our reasonings behind being for or against guns are different. You specifically have said I don't need it while I hope I don't need it, but have it if I do.

As far as where you're coming from, I don't know. I don't think guns are the main problem. I think it is systematic. As I've said here in Wyoming we aren't shooting each other. We sure do hunt, kill predators, and sport shoot. Look at urban cities and it's fighting over territory, colors, drug deals, and straight up means of survival. Does taking away a "tool" fix that? Will these insane dirtbags stop wanting to mass kill? I say no... The tool is not the problem. The tool is just that.

Will we have less gun deaths? Yeah. Will the crime still be prevalent? I say yeah again. If people want toast bad enough, they will find a way

 

[Zombie]

That's because our reasonings behind being for or against guns are different. You specifically have said I don't need it while I hope I don't need it, but have it if I do.

As far as where you're coming from, I don't know. I don't think guns are the main problem. I think it is systematic. As I've said here in Wyoming we aren't shooting each other. We sure do hunt, kill predators, and sport shoot. Look at urban cities and it's fighting over territory, colors, drug deals, and straight up means of survival. Does taking away a "tool" fix that? Will these insane dirtbags stop wanting to mass kill? I say no... The tool is not the problem. The tool is just that.

Will we have less gun deaths? Yeah. Will the crime still be prevalent? I say yeah again. If people want toast bad enough, they will find a way

Fun fact- Wyoming is 11th in the US in per capita gun deaths. New York is 48th.

 

[JazzyFresh]

Fun fact- Wyoming is 11th in the US in per capita gun deaths. New York is 48th.

Take out suicide and the story changes significantly. Sadly there is a lot of suicide here. One of my good friends jumped off of a bridge. Wyoming as a whole had something like 10 murders by gun last year, thats sometimes a weekend in places like NY and Chicago.

 

[Zombie]

Take out suicide and the story changes significantly. Sadly there is a lot of suicide here. One of my good friends jumped off of a bridge. Wyoming as a whole had something like 10 murders by gun last year, thats sometimes a weekend in places like NY and Chicago.

We just shoot ourselves. Still though that's fair enough, let's widen our view a little. The states with the highest homicide by firearm rates per capita are Alaska, Delaware, Georgia, Louisiana, Maryland, Missouri, South Carolina, Tennessee, Mississippi, and DC.

Not exactly the most Urban areas, outside of DC of course.

 

[JazzyFresh]

Fair enough, let's widen our view a little. The states with the highest homicide by firearm rates per capita are Alaska, Delaware, Georgia, Louisiana, Maryland, Missouri, South Carolina, Tennessee, Mississippi, and DC.

Not exactly the most Urban areas, outside of DC of course.

https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/blog/highest-murder-rate-cities/amp

 

[Zombie]

https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/blog/highest-murder-rate-cities/amp

That list looks like a pretty good mix of high density Urban areas and less densely populated cities. Kind of like there's something else going on here.

 

[JazzyFresh]

That list looks like a pretty good mix of high density Urban areas and less densely populated cities. Kind of like there's something else going on here.

Look at numbers not per capita. Sure there were 10 murders in Fairbanks but there were 342 in Baltimore. More people are getting killed in urban zones.

 

[Zombie]

Look at numbers not per capita. Sure there were 10 murders in Fairbanks but there were 342 in Baltimore. More people are getting killed in urban zones.

Not sure if this is serious or not. Were you the one having a hard time grasping the basics of statistics the other day?

Of course there are going to be more total murders where more people live. That doesn't tell us much.

 

[One Brow]

No because none of these are a constitutional right. None of these protect you from things like a tyrannical government, War, mass power outages and looting, global warming and looting, burglary, mass shootings, Trump, and I could go on. Hell, look around at our political climate and one could make an argument that we are in a form civil of war.

Your AR-15 also won't protect you from tyrannical government, War, mass power outages, global warming, mass shootings, nor Trump. I might protect you from burglary, if you happen to be home. So, really only looting. When was the last time there was looting in your home city?

Does that mean I'm some paranoid "shadowboxer"?

If you are trying to make an argument we are in a form of civil war, yeah.

At any rate, it doesn't really seem like your gun has much use.

 

[JazzyFresh]

Not sure if this is serious or not. Were you the one having a hard time grasping the basics of statistics the other day?

Of course there are going to be more total murders where more people live. That doesn't tell us much.

25 of those cities had 613 deaths total

5 of those "urban" cities had 1122 deaths thats KC, Detroit, New Orleans, Baltimore, St. Louis

It's basic math buddy. Basic. More people get killed in Urban areas.

 

[JazzyFresh]

Your AR-15 also won't protect you from tyrannical government, War, mass power outages, global warming, mass shootings, nor Trump. I might protect you from burglary, if you happen to be home. So, really only looting. When was the last time there was looting in your home city?



If you are trying to make an argument we are in a form of civil war, yeah.

At any rate, it doesn't really seem like your gun has much use.

Disagree. If you don't like it, don't care.

I've had enough though dudes. Good day.

 

[Zombie]

25 of those cities had 613 deaths total

5 of those "urban" cities had 1122 deaths thats KC, Detroit, New Orleans, Baltimore, St. Louis

It's basic math buddy. Basic. More people get killed in Urban areas.

Oh God, you were serious. Lol OK buddy.

 

[JazzyFresh]

Oh God, you were serious. Lol OK buddy.

You dudes can't have a civil discussion without toxicity. It's ****ed up and childish.(not you fishon)

Goodnight.

 

[Zombie]

You dudes can't have a civil discussion without toxicity. It's ****ed up and childish.(not you fishon)

Goodnight.

Good God you're a ****in baby. Maybe come back once you learn basic reasoning skills.

 

[One Brow]

Disagree. If you don't like it, don't care.

There's no reason you should care if I disagree. Fortunately, you will likely never realize how wrong you are.

I've had enough though dudes. Good day.

Enjoy the evening.

 

[JazzyFresh]

Good God you're a ****in baby. Maybe come back once you learn basic reasoning skills.

Another attack

 

[JazzyFresh]

There's no reason you should care if I disagree. Fortunately, you will likely never realize how wrong you are.



Enjoy the evening.

I hope I'm wrong. I truthfully do.

Peace

 

[Zombie]

Another attack

Lol, you know I was being very respectful until your "it's basic math buddy" quip. So I returned your attitude in kind. Dishing it, but crying foul when anyone dares fire back is about what I'd expect from my five year old nephew. Childish indeed.

 

[JazzyFresh]

Lol, you know I was being very respectful until your "it's basic math buddy" quip. So I returned your attitude in kind. Dishing it, but crying foul when anyone dares fire back is about what I'd expect from my five year old nephew. Childish indeed.

Bye.