Enes Kanter's National Team Participation

[jazzfan32]

You are wrong if youthink that I am playing the denier card.
I openly write that those acts would qualify as one kind of an int'l crime, genocide or else.
Dude, believe me I am a professor of int'l law.
Lemkin's personal motives are well known to me.
For me he is a very valuable lawyer and pure admiration.
But his writings are not law; 1948 Genocide Convention is, which is, needless to say, to be interpreted according to Vienna onvention of Treaties; NOT Lemkin's personal agenda (tho he coined the term genoicde).
I do stop here as well, for I see that my already-badly-put remarks are falling on deaf ears.

I guess I should make 1-2 corrections and hopefully done with this thread:

In parallel to what happened to Armenians, there were similar events happening to Greeks and Assyrians spanning the peak intensity at around 1910-1925. Todays remaining Assyrians in Turkey are mainly living in South Eastern part of Turkey. Later on, there were comparable events in 1935-1938 in Dersim and again to remaining Greeks in 1960s in Istanbul I believe. The timeline continues today with Kurds.

What you wrote in your previous message implying both Armenians and Turks killed each other is one of the popular argument done by the Turkish nationalists (or Kemalists) to trim/blur the events and prepare a basis for the denial, I thought you were trying to throw this card to the table.

On Kanter: I guess he was supposed to be the main subject, if he preferes not to play than it is his decision and he does not have to have any explanation to NT or whoever.

I am mainly a jazz fan because of Karl Malone. I used to watch his games and he was my hero when I was a kid. His games were a must watch for me together with the muppet show on TV. I should admit I don't enjoy Jazz that much anymore but players like Favors, who is becoming a favorite of mine, still remind me of Malone.

 

[jazzyapma]

What you wrote in your previous message implying both Armenians and Turks killed each other is one of the popular argument done by the Turkish nationalists (or Kemalists) to trim/blur the events and prepare a basis for the denial, I thought you were trying to throw this card to the table.

I will tell to my grandfather's uncle who had been slaughtered in 1913 in Erzurum by Armenians with his 3 children and wife at his home that this never happened, he had been a tool for Turkish Nationalists' Propaganda.

 

[addictionary]

I will tell to my grandfather's uncle who had been slaughtered in 1913 in Erzurum by Armenians with his 3 children and wife at his home that this never happened, he had been a tool for Turkish Nationalists' Propaganda.

Some things will never change bro. Leave it alone. We Turks are evil.

 

[garmon]

Turkey's refusal is open ended.

Erdenay said that it is mainly because he doesn't want the other players who sweated in the qualification round to get Turkey up there in the tournament get offended, he thinks it will be unfair to them. That is why I agree with him. Consider yourself getting benched by a player who only needed to pick up the phone and say "I need to work individually. Sorry I can't come. I know I promised to come but I'm more than behind my schedule in my career and I need to work out" but instead didn't pick it up and let his cocky agent answer with "Enes is not coming. Stop calling."

And don't forget, Erdenay also said that Enes will obviously participate in the further NT's. Just not this one to avoid other players get offended.

Enes is one of the players that could become maybe the best Turkish basketball player ever to play it up to day. If he treasures his potential. He's doing pretty good with it. I hope his acceleration with his improvement never stops for at least 3-4 years.

Honestly I don't get the highlighted part, Ersan,Omer Asik, Hidayet ( i dont think he will be able to play in the national team anymore ) and most of the old timers didn't play during the qualification rounds as well. Doesnt that mean that it would be unfair to the other players ? This is simply finding an excuse. For the sake of getting better Enes made a choice and i think it was the right call. Turkish management and coach sucks so bad. If they are playing ethic card, they should not call Hidayet to the national team anymore.

 

[addictionary]

Honestly I don't get the highlighted part, Ersan,Omer Asik, Hidayet ( i dont think he will be able to play in the national team anymore ) and most of the old timers didn't play during the qualification rounds as well. Doesnt that mean that it would be unfair to the other players ? This is simply finding an excuse. For the sake of getting better Enes made a choice and i think it was the right call. Turkish management and coach sucks so bad. If they are playing ethic card, they should not call Hidayet to the national team anymore.

Well if you tell them that they'll say "but those three have sweated a great deal of blood for the team" which is not enough for me and I agree with you. Turkish NT has a big problem in PG position (sounds familiar JazzFanz?) and Enes' presence would allow the team to offensively dominate against Euro teams so I think it would be awesome if he played. This is just lost time. Even that I agree that no other young players (that are considered lesser compared to Enes) should be mistreated, and the management should be fair, but I hope someone finds a way to take Enes back in soon without making it look like Enes made them crawl to their feet. This is seriously annoying. Kid-Needs-Playing-Time!!!

 

[Mr. McGibblets]

I will tell to my grandfather's uncle who had been slaughtered in 1913 in Erzurum by Armenians with his 3 children and wife at his home that this never happened, he had been a tool for Turkish Nationalists' Propaganda.

Nobody has stated Turks weren't killed or Armenians didn't do horrible things to Turks.

Some things will never change bro. Leave it alone. We Turks are evil.

Who here thinks Turks are evil? You guys keep stating absolutes (never, all, etc.) . People like Turkey. But it seems many here disagree with how SOME Turks portray the history of Turkey-Armenia events. Not that you're all evil or Armenia were angels and did no wrong. Let's get back to what we all have in common. Even then, we all have a lot more in common than Jazz basketball.

 

[addictionary]

Nobody has stated Turks weren't killed or Armenians didn't do horrible things to Turks.


Who here thinks Turks are evil? You guys keep stating absolutes (never, all, etc.) . People like Turkey. But it seems many here disagree with how SOME Turks portray the history of Turkey-Armenia events. Not that you're all evil or Armenia were angels and did no wrong. Let's get back to what we all have in common. Even then, we all have a lot more in common than Jazz basketball.

Definitely.