ESPN Insider Article Re: Future of Jazz and Nuggets
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The Thriller
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Say what you want, but ONeal still played in a tougher league than a lot of these chumps today.
The NBA today is bigmanless (with seriously, one exception, the dude in Orlando).
Today, it's all about the fairy Gasols, the weak Amares, the pansie Boozers, and the undersized Millsaps.
When Oneal was playing, there was still Shaq, Malone (even at age 50 Malone could dominate this league), Duncan, Zo, Elton Brand, KG, Sheed, Big Ben, and Antonio Davis.
Jermaine O'Neal in his prime, was easily a top 5 big man. He could score inside and out. If Favors develops into a top 15 (even in this crappy bigman league), the Jazz will be happy. Favors, while I'm high on him, has a long way to go. For every "good game" where we say a flash, there we at least 5 others where he came in, racked up a few fouls, and sat on the bench.
vslice02
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I compared Favors to Jermaine O'Neal a few months back
(https://jazzfanz.com/showthread.php?6249-Let-me-do-a-FAVORs-and-do-a-non-draft-thread.&p=165920#post165920)
and I would be estatic if he turns out to be the caliber of bigman that Jermaine O'Neal was in his prime.
(https://jazzfanz.com/showthread.php?6249-Let-me-do-a-FAVORs-and-do-a-non-draft-thread.&p=165920#post165920)
and I would be estatic if he turns out to be the caliber of bigman that Jermaine O'Neal was in his prime.
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Joe Bagadonuts
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Either I'm misremembering or you are. I don't think Favors stunk it up once he was in a Jazz uniform at nearly the rate you're implying. I recall a steady and promising progression, not one good game followed by five stinkers.
Stifle Tower
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I think Thriller has his jersey numbers mixed up. Favors wore #15, not #47 or #34. It was AK and CJ that would play great for 1 game and then stink it up for 5 after that.
I'm with you, donuts, I saw pretty steady progression from Favors. Rookies never get calls. Favors played pretty good defensively, got a few blocks. For the season he averaged 7/5 with 1 block and 3 fouls in just under 20 mins. His scoring was a little up, rebounds the same and fouls lower with the Jazz vs. his stats in NJ. He needs to work on his FT shooting. Realistically, I see him averaging 25 mins/per next season, barring a Millsap trade. Favors should be able to up his averages to 12/8 with a couple of blocks. And that's all the Jazz would need out of him. Remember, he'll only be 20 yrs old! Just keep improving his game every season like Malone did.
ESPN should be dropping their 5 on 5 roundtable on the Jazz pretty soon.
billyshelby
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If Favors only turns out as good as O'Neal in his prime, I'll be thrilled.
I completely agree with you on this.
Lakers_Slapper
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I understant the Favors - Oneal comparison, but being optomistic, I hope that Favors can be the one and only Favors. Someone that you cant commpare with anyone else. Probably will be comparible with another PF out there, but hoping not.
Lakers_Slapper
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I never have been a fan of KOC, but I really like what he did with the D-Will trade. I feel that he made the most out of a rough situation that he possibly could have.
Stifle Tower
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Agree. Maybe KOC can be criticized for not shopping DWill a bit more. Could he have gotten more in terms of value? Perhaps. But we know KOC really wanted Favors in the draft. And you can't argue with getting two lottery picks. Yes, it was lucky the first one turned into the #3 pick. Had Denver made this same deal for Carmello, I wonder if we'd be saying it was a great trade? Only time will tell if the trade ends up revitalizing or setting back the Jazz. It certainly was a high-risk/high-reward deal. I just want basketball to start up again. The Jazz are going to be hurt if there is a shortened pre-season as the offense and defense schemes will likely (hopefully) be different or at least altered some under Corbin.