Evans - Hayward - Fes .. now what ?
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Can't send Fesenko to the D-League as he has been in the league too long. The others are good candidates to be sent down when we are healthy. Fesenko could be a throw in on a trade, but I don't see any trades happening unless we can get something useful for AK.
I am actually a fan of Hayward's and recent Jazz fan because of Hayward.
I tell ya one thing on a side note, in the beginning I was critical of Dwill, but I have watched every Jazz game, every minute on NBA League Pass.
Dwill is awesome, he is this team. What a player. Until this year, I mostly follwed the Bulls & Pacers since I am in the Chicago area.
If I was playing us I would double him as soon as he gets the ball and let the rest try to win.
As for Hayward, I think a trade would make sense both ways.
I would like to see Hayward get some regular PT on a crappier team.
We are too good, he wont see floor much.
I think Hayward will develop into a reliable utility player. Needs time.
He is only 20, developing, but he is smart as heck and once he start playing not worrying about
mistakes and has his teams backing ... watch out.
Heck, Bell is like 5 for his last 25 and no one expresses concern.....
I am concerned Jazz will not give Hayward his minutes(justifiably so since they are so good) and at the end of 2 years, not renew his contract.
We'll see.
I have absolutely nothing against Evans, he has been fun to watch on offense, Dfense lacking. I think in 3 years Jazz will see the benefit of Hayward, if they keep him.
Was he a #9 pick, no way. I think he was more accurately a #20 or so pick, but he got lucky.
I tell ya one thing on a side note, in the beginning I was critical of Dwill, but I have watched every Jazz game, every minute on NBA League Pass.
Dwill is awesome, he is this team. What a player. Until this year, I mostly follwed the Bulls & Pacers since I am in the Chicago area.
If I was playing us I would double him as soon as he gets the ball and let the rest try to win.
As for Hayward, I think a trade would make sense both ways.
I would like to see Hayward get some regular PT on a crappier team.
We are too good, he wont see floor much.
I think Hayward will develop into a reliable utility player. Needs time.
He is only 20, developing, but he is smart as heck and once he start playing not worrying about
mistakes and has his teams backing ... watch out.
Heck, Bell is like 5 for his last 25 and no one expresses concern.....
I am concerned Jazz will not give Hayward his minutes(justifiably so since they are so good) and at the end of 2 years, not renew his contract.
We'll see.
I have absolutely nothing against Evans, he has been fun to watch on offense, Dfense lacking. I think in 3 years Jazz will see the benefit of Hayward, if they keep him.
Was he a #9 pick, no way. I think he was more accurately a #20 or so pick, but he got lucky.
I don't think that the Jazz will just give up on Hayward this soon into his rookie season. He'll take time to develop, but we got time. We got a lot of people coming off payroll the next season or two, he'll get time. He'll develop just fine. I'd rather him go to the D-League and get more experience for when the Jazz actually need him.
Evans is the only one I see as sendable. Fess wont benefit from going down there at all. Hayward is needed because we are thin at the wing position with Raja's nagging injuries.
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fairweather
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Could not disagree more with the responses to this thread. Evans is the guy to keep. I don't get the love for Hayward, other than the fact that he looks like he's home grown.
Its not that I think Hayward has been great or anything (or even good, or subpar for that matter). It just his position is one that we are thin on, and with Bell's recent injury problems, not to mention AK's annual injury, we are going to need an extra wing around.
gregbroncs
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i think Evans can play the 3 in spot minutes if needed. With Price, CJ, Bell, and Deron playing minutes at the 2 I don't see any reason not to send Hayward to the D-league.
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The Thriller
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It makes no sense why hayward shouldn't be sent to the D-League.
If worse came to worse, Millsap and Evans could fill in at the 3. Fransico, Al, and Memo could fill in at the 4. Deron and Price could play more time at the 2.
There's just no reason to keep Hayward on the Utah Jazz right now. He's worthless right now. He can't defend, can't score, and most importantly, lacking confidence. Evans can at least contribute right now. Even if it's for 5 minutes. He can provide a dunk, tip in, rebound, or a blocked shot.
Hayward cannot. and he needs some PT to get his confidence back. Hayward homers need to look @ this rationally. Right now Hayward is the worst player on this roster. Right now Hayward is easily the most expendable player on the Jazz. Right now Hayward is the rookie that needs the D-League the most.
If worse came to worse, Millsap and Evans could fill in at the 3. Fransico, Al, and Memo could fill in at the 4. Deron and Price could play more time at the 2.
There's just no reason to keep Hayward on the Utah Jazz right now. He's worthless right now. He can't defend, can't score, and most importantly, lacking confidence. Evans can at least contribute right now. Even if it's for 5 minutes. He can provide a dunk, tip in, rebound, or a blocked shot.
Hayward cannot. and he needs some PT to get his confidence back. Hayward homers need to look @ this rationally. Right now Hayward is the worst player on this roster. Right now Hayward is easily the most expendable player on the Jazz. Right now Hayward is the rookie that needs the D-League the most.
The Thriller
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I believe it's 3 times.
TheMulletMutilator
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Hayward is terrible thus far. He needs to go to the D League. Best case scenario, I never have to see his goofy face on an NBA team ever again. Worst case scenario, people on here continue to think he is anything but a bust. I don't care if he is young, he doesn't have the talent to play at this level. Waste of a pick.
A large portion of Hayward's struggles comes from being extremely uncomfortable with the offense. How is he going to learn the Jazz offense properly in the Dleauge? Its best to just keep him on the team so he can practice with them.
I can easily see the talent there. As opposed to a guy like Morris Almond where I couldn't see any during his rare appearances. What I don't see is confidence and knowledge of the system.
I cannot call a player a bust 2 months into his career.
I think Evans has athletic ability that you cannot teach. I love watching him do his dunks. I salivate at his potential.
Hayward...no I haven't seen much out of him yet, but that doesn't mean he is a bust and will never be good.
It all comes down to how hard the two guys work. That is what Jerry Sloan demands. Even Deron had to learn that.
Deron got it quickly. I hope Evans and Hayward do the same.
If they are both putting in the work in practice, then I am willing to be patient with them.
I think Evans has athletic ability that you cannot teach. I love watching him do his dunks. I salivate at his potential.
Hayward...no I haven't seen much out of him yet, but that doesn't mean he is a bust and will never be good.
It all comes down to how hard the two guys work. That is what Jerry Sloan demands. Even Deron had to learn that.
Deron got it quickly. I hope Evans and Hayward do the same.
If they are both putting in the work in practice, then I am willing to be patient with them.
As long as he understands going to the D-League will help him in all these areas, I think it's perfect. Getting sent down may hurt his confidence even more. But the playing time will only help his shot, which will naturally help his confidence tremendously.