Every one of you would make this trade. You're lying if you say otherwise.
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Coach Ellis
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His draft wasn't bad. Turner, Booker and Lyles. . . but he traded away every decent asset the Jazz have over the next 4 years AND took on D-Will's albatross contract. That's a huge fail. Jazz are much better off letting the cake bake and then looking to cash in all their assets for one All Star caliber player sometime between now and the 2016 trade deadline. Adding three rookies (although I'm a huge fan of Myles Turner) are not going to help this team move up to championship caliber. So glad that DL is level headed. He's aggressive, but not stupid.
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Chris
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You've assumed too much Tony. The focus of this team appears to be developing the young talent that we have and putting ourselves in the best possible position to sign as much of this young core to extensions as possible. There's no need to bring a coach killer with chronic injuries in here on a bloated contract whose career is on the back nine. It's antithetical to the direction of the team and would be a net (no pun intended) negative.
But then again, I must be lying.
But then again, I must be lying.
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I actually don't hate the idea. I wouldn't do the proposed trade, but it is an interesting idea to start from. My counter-proposal would be:
Booker, Burke, and our other non-guaranteed contracts for Dwill and Plumlee. Then we pick Kaminsky at #12.
I would stick with the starting lineup that helped us become a top team after the All-Star break and add an upgraded bench. Dwill, Burks, Kaminsky, and Plumlee would be a major upgrade over Burke, Ingles, Milsap, and Booker. That is a very solid 9 man rotation - one I'd definitely take over our current one. And his contract would expire before anyone is due an extension, so we wouldn't risk losing Gobert because of DWill's contract.
The main point I'd like to make with this trade is everyone is talking about the Golden State model lately. They drafted Curry, Thompson, Green, and Barnes. They traded for Bogut. Then they were able to trade for IGGY. They built mostly from the ground up and traded for complimentary pieces. Remember, Andre Iguodala had a rough few years and was on the "back-nine" of his career as well. GS still traded for him and his "bloated contract" and got a player that struggled much of his time. He was a former all-star that wasn't playing up to his contract and struggled off the bench. Then he re-appears in the Finals, wins Finals MVP, and is the main reason his team won the Finals. It looked like GS made a horrible decision to give up 2 unprotected 1sts to the Jazz so they could have the cap space to make the trade - then he wins them a championship and people think DL should get a ring for facilitating that trade. Iggy averaged 8 PPG, 3 APG, and 3 RPG on the season, BUT he showed up on the big stage and helped them win a championship.
Iggy, Lee, and Bogut all are on bad contracts, BUT they had Green, Barnes, and Thompson all on rookie deals so it didn't kill them. The Jazz are in a similar position. Gobert, Hood, Exum, Plumlee, and Kaminsky (or whoever we pick at #12) would all still be on their rookie deals for the entirety of DWill's contract and the 9-man rotation of Gobert, Favors, Hayward, Hood, Exum, Dwill, Burks, Kaminsky, and Plumlee would have 2 full years together. If there is ever a time to make a trade like this, NOW IS THE TIME!
Booker, Burke, and our other non-guaranteed contracts for Dwill and Plumlee. Then we pick Kaminsky at #12.
I would stick with the starting lineup that helped us become a top team after the All-Star break and add an upgraded bench. Dwill, Burks, Kaminsky, and Plumlee would be a major upgrade over Burke, Ingles, Milsap, and Booker. That is a very solid 9 man rotation - one I'd definitely take over our current one. And his contract would expire before anyone is due an extension, so we wouldn't risk losing Gobert because of DWill's contract.
The main point I'd like to make with this trade is everyone is talking about the Golden State model lately. They drafted Curry, Thompson, Green, and Barnes. They traded for Bogut. Then they were able to trade for IGGY. They built mostly from the ground up and traded for complimentary pieces. Remember, Andre Iguodala had a rough few years and was on the "back-nine" of his career as well. GS still traded for him and his "bloated contract" and got a player that struggled much of his time. He was a former all-star that wasn't playing up to his contract and struggled off the bench. Then he re-appears in the Finals, wins Finals MVP, and is the main reason his team won the Finals. It looked like GS made a horrible decision to give up 2 unprotected 1sts to the Jazz so they could have the cap space to make the trade - then he wins them a championship and people think DL should get a ring for facilitating that trade. Iggy averaged 8 PPG, 3 APG, and 3 RPG on the season, BUT he showed up on the big stage and helped them win a championship.
Iggy, Lee, and Bogut all are on bad contracts, BUT they had Green, Barnes, and Thompson all on rookie deals so it didn't kill them. The Jazz are in a similar position. Gobert, Hood, Exum, Plumlee, and Kaminsky (or whoever we pick at #12) would all still be on their rookie deals for the entirety of DWill's contract and the 9-man rotation of Gobert, Favors, Hayward, Hood, Exum, Dwill, Burks, Kaminsky, and Plumlee would have 2 full years together. If there is ever a time to make a trade like this, NOW IS THE TIME!
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Give us 2 more seasons and Deron is going to be in a wheelchair.
Bawse Dawg
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Crack? I would give the OP that much credit.