Explosion at Josh Powell's WA home......

[infection]

I would have thought something like this would have pushed his supporters back into the woodwork but it looks like he still has some. I'm guessing when those emails get released he simply blames everyone for what happened (which his like-minded supporters seem to purport) to get some type of revenge.

 

[craig2112]

We often think someone is a slimeball because they're aggressive and confident (or full of bravado, I don't think women can tell the difference as well as men can) and seem to know what they want. Plus, you don't call a bum a slimeball, you call the guy who got the corner office you don't think he deserves a slimeball. Women don't think with their heads in matters of sex any more than men do, regardless of what they'd like us to belive. They like power and status (read security and comfort) like men like big boobs and long legs.

Sigh, I went through HS being the nice guy. If only I had it to do over again.

Girls defintely go for the confident bad boy, jerks. But I am talking about people like Josh Powell and Mark Hacking. They weren't confident jerks. They were just slime. Hacking was a complete fake, and we all see what Josh was.
Sure, some people are good at hiding what they really are, but I have to think there were red flags to be considered.

 

[craig2112]

I would have thought something like this would have pushed his supporters back into the woodwork but it looks like he still has some. I'm guessing when those emails get released he simply blames everyone for what happened (which his like-minded supporters seem to purport) to get some type of revenge.

Slime tends to support slime.

 

[The Thriller]

Girls defintely go for the confident bad boy, jerks. But I am talking about people like Josh Powell and Mark Hacking. They weren't confident jerks. They were just slime. Hacking was a complete fake, and we all see what Josh was.
Sure, some people are good at hiding what they really are, but I have to think there were red flags to be considered.

I think in some cases even though the guys don't meet our expectations of being successful or powerful, in the little "mundos" of some of these girls, these men are. Mark, for example, claimed to have been sent home off his mission for medical reasons. Ahhhhh how cute! In reality it was for his porn addiction. He used to tell people how he was a member of the HS football team (which he never was). To a very young HS girl, what could be better than to date a super athlete from your own community? He claimed to be going to medical school. In Lori's mind, her husband was going somewhere!

On top of everything, he had a few problems. He wasn't perfect. He smoked. He drank. For a good girl, that's HOT! He's your project! Your calling in life! How could you abandon him?!

For us, Josh Powell looks like a complete loser. He didn't seem to have much of a career, wasn't good looking, wasn't athletic, wasn't rich, and his dad was a complete pervball. Yet... Maybe he was extremely manipulative? Obviously he was super controlling and told everyone what to do and where to go, just like how he snubbed our media nad gave the police the middle finger. I honestly have never seen anyone in such a bad situation control it so easily/completely as Josh Powell. I think 9 times out of 10, the media would have eaten someone in his position alive. He would have been smeared. Cops? They would have intimidated him into a confession. Josh? Nope. Not him. He made the police here look like idiots and threw the media around like Vlade Divac trying to guard Shaq.

I don't know too much about Susan. I do know/have talked to neighbors/former schoolmates of Lori/Mark. So I'm guessing Susan was in need of serious emotional attention, found it with a strange man, who found ways to control her. Had kids with him. And once she finally couldn't take it anymore, was murdered before she could get out.

It's just sad that people like the Powells have offspring in the first place when so many other couples much healthier emotionally and mentally are unable to. That father Powell, a complete pervball, should have never been around kids. I bet he abused his own. And Josh, probably many times carried on this tradition. Neither of these guys should have ever had the opportunity to have families. These dudes were sick and needed to be locked up and prevented from hurting others in society.

 

[The Thriller]

I wonder if the police will come under some heat? It just seemed like this case was mishandled from day 1.

Could they really never find enough evidence, even circumstantial, to put Josh away?

Who the hell goes camping in the wilderness in the middle of a bitter cold night in January with two extremely young kids? That night was cold as hell, I remember it. Then "forgets" where they went? What about that wet spot in the carpet? why the hell would Susan leave without any of her clothes, IDs, money, or credit cards? Why did he rent a car 2 days after his wife went missing and put hundreds of miles on it? He never answered these questions.

If you're innocent, you're doing your best to prove it. You're looking for your wife (or at least appearing to look for her). You don't go run and hide. And you certainly don't rent a car, grab the body from the hiding place (since the night you went camping/killed her, the ground was too cold to dig a decent grave) and dump the body somewhere (probably in a mine hundreds of miles away).

obviously, Josh is 100 % responsible for his own actions.

However, I wonder if the police will be criticized by family members/members of the community/media members for not doing more to put Josh Powell away?

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I googled a picture of this guy and it should be noted he had a goatee. People with goatee's can not be trusted.

 

[Darkwing Duck]

I wonder if the police will come under some heat? It just seemed like this case was mishandled from day 1.

Could they really never find enough evidence, even circumstantial, to put Josh away?

You gotta be sure. Dude's the kind of guy that would do all in his power to get the "not guilty" verdict, and then crow that he did it because he couldn't be tried again for it.

 

[The Thriller]

I googled a picture of this guy and it should be noted he had a goatee. People with goatee's can not be trusted.

These two have some really horrible gotees.

 

[The Thriller]

You gotta be sure. Dude's the kind of guy that would do all in his power to get the "not guilty" verdict, and then crow that he did it because he couldn't be tried again for it.

I don't think so.

People are convicted on circumstantial evidence all the time. Beyond a reasonable doubt is not the same as FOR SURE WITHOUT A DOUBT.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

These two have some really horrible gotees.

Powell's is exceptionally bad/creepy. I can just look at this guy and tell he is either a child molester or a general creep.

Miller's isn't as bad in terms of putting him on a creepy level, but he seems like a douche in general. Probably someone who does a lot of coke.

 

[The Thriller]

Powell's is exceptionally bad/creepy. I can just look at this guy and tell he is either a child molester or a general creep.

Miller's isn't as bad in terms of putting him on a creepy level, but he seems like a douche in general. Probably someone who does a lot of coke.

Miller just looks like a douche, like you said.

Powell is either a child molester or a car salesmen.

 

[bigb]

Miller just looks like a douche, like you said.

Powell is either a child molester or an insurance salesmen.

Fixed.

 

[Deleted member 848]

Man,


Whenever I hear of stories like these, I've just always wanted to know what the criminal, Josh Powell in this instance, was thinking in the moments leading up to this disaster. Like, did he accept the fact that he was doing something evil? Did he actually mean well in some ****ed up sort of way? I have always been a proponent of the fact that people always mean well, despite the fact that what they do sometimes is simply the most evil of things. What he did to his two children is absolutely inhuman, and it makes me sick to my stomach, but I swear, no completely sane person can go through with that sort of plan. He mustve been completely psychotic, I mean, I could not think of a single thing that would be more difficult than to kill my own children. I would love to know why he did this, specifically. I mean we can all argue, and debate, but we will never know what he was thinking at the time.

 

[TroutBum]

I wonder if the police will come under some heat? It just seemed like this case was mishandled from day 1.

Could they really never find enough evidence, even circumstantial, to put Josh away?

Who the hell goes camping in the wilderness in the middle of a bitter cold night in January with two extremely young kids? That night was cold as hell, I remember it. Then "forgets" where they went? What about that wet spot in the carpet? why the hell would Susan leave without any of her clothes, IDs, money, or credit cards? Why did he rent a car 2 days after his wife went missing and put hundreds of miles on it? He never answered these questions.

If you're innocent, you're doing your best to prove it. You're looking for your wife (or at least appearing to look for her). You don't go run and hide. And you certainly don't rent a car, grab the body from the hiding place (since the night you went camping/killed her, the ground was too cold to dig a decent grave) and dump the body somewhere (probably in a mine hundreds of miles away).

obviously, Josh is 100 % responsible for his own actions.

However, I wonder if the police will be criticized by family members/members of the community/media members for not doing more to put Josh Powell away?

Man, if only the cops had The Thriller on the payroll, this **** would be signed, sealed, and convicted, yo!

Gods, you armchair morons that spout off your idiot opinions as if they're facts -- do you ever click "Preview Post" and think to yourself, "Holy ****, I'm ****ing stupid."? Try it some time.

 

[NUMBERICA]

**** that dude. One of the most cowardly things I can even imagine. Rarely do I even hope there is a vengeful creator, but in instances like these, my sense of justice forces me to.

Anyone know if this is the end of that bloodline?

 

[NUMBERICA]

I think and have thought for a long time that 'parental rights' are trash. Having had some experience with a child that came out of an abusive and out of her mind wreck, it's amazing to me the laws that protect people like her and allow them to poison their children even after losing custody.

I hope this forces at least this state to re-look at the issue of parental rights. Personally, the second DCFS drops the hammer and takes your children, that should be it. Or at least, at that point, the child should have a choice as to whether they want to visit that parent or not. There's no way that any state will mandate trained and armed personnel to be the only ones that will supervise (too many resources) and that's the only other way something like this could've been prevented.

 

[trigg3r]

Very sad story. May his wife and children rest in peace and may he(Josh) burn in hell if there is one. I really hope they put the screws to Powell's father to not only get a conviction on his sick child pornography case, but to also try to get him to divulge where Susan's body is. He obviously knows more than he is saying. Their whole conspiracy theory about Susan hooking up with Steven Koecher and leaving the country and her children behind was beyond asinine.

 

[craig2112]

Man, if only the cops had The Thriller on the payroll, this **** would be signed, sealed, and convicted, yo!

Gods, you armchair morons that spout off your idiot opinions as if they're facts -- do you ever click "Preview Post" and think to yourself, "Holy ****, I'm ****ing stupid."? Try it some time.

I endorse everything that the Thriller said.


As for Josh....Mark 9:42 "And whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him thata millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea"

 

[babe]

There were a lot of dropped balls in this case.

Everybody is going to be an expert on all those, it just shows how the system works, and how it can be jerked around with one argument or another.

The judge who ordered "supervised visitation", the lawyers on both sides, the social workers, and others who had any chance to have done something different, even the cops, will probably have this nightmare in the back of their minds for a long long time.

Maybe next time they think someone murdered the mother of his kids, they'll settle on letting that be reason enough to arrest him and deny visitation or custody. In a clear-cut time-line that doesn't expose the kids to a danger like this. And that is going to have a huge impact on a lot of child custody fights.

Oh, I could see years of public press about how you're a killer, and then being told you're losing custody could cause some people to just snap. But it pretty much shows something snapped once before, and he's going down as guilty of Susan's murder, too.

Did's Josh's dad live there, too? There's mention of a possible second adult dead, the person who ???? sat in a gasoline-soaked house, and did nothing???? was supposed to be supervising the visitation. Case worker should have insisted on seeing him before handing the kids over. . . . but he was probably dead already.

 

[Darkwing Duck]

There were a lot of dropped balls in this case.

Everybody is going to be an expert on all those, it just shows how the system works, and how it can be jerked around with one argument or another.

The judge who ordered "supervised visitation", the lawyers on both sides, the social workers, and others who had any chance to have done something different, even the cops, will probably have this nightmare in the back of their minds for a long long time.

Maybe next time they think someone murdered the mother of his kids, they'll settle on letting that be reason enough to arrest him and deny visitation or custody. In a clear-cut time-line that doesn't expose the kids to a danger like this. And that is going to have a huge impact on a lot of child custody fights.

Oh, I could see years of public press about how you're a killer, and then being told you're losing custody could cause some people to just snap. But it pretty much shows something snapped once before, and he's going down as guilty of Susan's murder, too.

Did's Josh's dad live there, too? There's mention of a possible second adult dead, the person who ???? sat in a gasoline-soaked house, and did nothing???? was supposed to be supervising the visitation. Case worker should have insisted on seeing him before handing the kids over. . . . but he was probably dead already.

Ah, so you're a proponent of guilty until proven innocent, then.