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Explosion at Josh Powell's WA home......

This reminds me of the story from 2005 in Twin Falls. Except the father didn't kill the mother or himself, just the three kids.

TWIN FALLS, Idaho — A Twin Falls man accused of using poison to kill his three young children told police he "didn't want the kids to suffer through the divorce," according to an affidavit filed Thursday.

Jim Junior Nice was charged in 5th District Court with three counts of first-degree murder in the deaths of his 6-year-old twin sons, Justin and Spencer, and his 2-year-old daughter, Raquel Anna.

He was ordered held without bail. A preliminary hearing has been scheduled for Jan. 4. No date has been set for arraignment.

"Nice appeared despondent over his recent divorce and described how he had purchased and used over-the-counter medication and rat poison to kill his children," Twin Falls police Detective Michael Steen wrote in the affidavit obtained by The Times-News in Twin Falls.

When the rat poison wasn't working fast enough he brought out the baseball bat. This story hits home because my nephews went to school with, and were close friends with the twins.
 
catratcho said:
Holy ****! That's one messed up dude. I wonder if he was spanked as a child?
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Well, considering that his father was arrested for having child porn and videotaping his duaghter-in-law and other women and children taking baths and using the toilet, yes, I'd say Josh was likely abused as a child.

And for those who said Josh was innocent, this pretty much settles that. Read the article...I think what really prompted this is that the children were beginning to talk about that "camping" trip, including one saying that mommy was in the trunk.
 
At first I was angry. Now I am just sick to my stomach. I wonder if we need to institute a mental evaluation before allowing people to have/raise kids. I don't know how you prevent this. Maybe the solution would be worse then the problem.

This is just horrible, horrible, horrible.
 
GlassEater said:
Well, considering that his father was arrested for having child porn and videotaping his duaghter-in-law and other women and children taking baths and using the toilet, yes, I'd say Josh was likely abused as a child.

And for those who said Josh was innocent, this pretty much settles that. Read the article...I think what really prompted this is that the children were beginning to talk about that "camping" trip, including one saying that mommy was in the trunk.
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Do you have a link or are you guessing?
 
No one will ever know what happened. Josh Powell's father won't say anything. I think he knows what happened.
 
craig2112 said:
I endorse everything that the Thriller said.


As for Josh....Mark 9:42 "And whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him thata millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea"
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What a shocker. Solid scripture quote though, that totally gives credence to your argument.

kwb said:
No one will ever know what happened. Josh Powell's father won't say anything. I think he knows what happened.
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A good friend of mine is a WVC cop. I believe we'll have closure to this sooner than you think, and lo, The Thriller and Craigy will again look like their normal selves.
 
Darkwing Duck said:
Ah, so you're a proponent of guilty until proven innocent, then.
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I don't think the cops are going to invest in further investigation with any real interest, and I don't think the public is going to take up the plight of a man who blew up his kids. I do think there could be things we don't know, and now will probably never know.

young kids don't make very good witnesses in general. In the context of massive public media, court proceedings, and probing psychiatric sleuths it would be understandable if they started saying things consistent with what "everybody knows".

I guess the question of who was supposed to be there to supervise the visitation might have been the social worker. Strange the kids ran ahead like that if they were starting to talk about mom being in the trunk on the "camping trip", and strange that they thought she got out and went somewhere with Josh, and never came back. Kids I know would be screaming "Mommy".

Whether I believe in "Innocent until proven guilty" is moot when there's not going to be trial. I don't care, myself, to do all the work to push out further arguments in his defense. I've already gone through how abused kids go on to marry other abused kids and produce a living hell for their own kids. I've already run out my list of possibilities. If Josh was innocent, I don't think he would have done this. If he was not just "messed up" from his origins, he might have felt the need to stay alive and spend his whole life trying to prove his innocence and trying to do his best for his kids. It's a tall order, more than we can just expect as a normal thing, for anyone to do that. More toughness than most of us to stand strong and not just go crazy. So, it's "I just don't know for sure" and "There's not much reason to still try to defend the perp".

But here's an actually valid point:

Doesn't this go against your whining about us being a "Police State"? You really want to arrest someone because you "THINK" they did it? Pick a side, man, and stick to your guns.
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If I hammer, or whine, about our drift towards authoritarianism and want our government shackled and prevented from trampling our inalienable rights, I can also think state authority should look out for the safety of innocents, and it is inconsistent. The power to protect is another face of the power to control, and I make case by case calls on both sides of the question myself. I don't think it's worth being that consistent, probably. I'd just like to trim the sails on our national rush towards an extreme. And still have effective government that can protect kids.
 
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So you're saying he might have confessed before he killed himself? The only reason I could see him not confessing would be to torment the family more.
 
Gameface said:
Do you have a link or are you guessing?
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It is mentioned in the Desnews:

On Sunday, the lawyer for Susan Powell's parents told The Associated Press that the children had started talking to their grandparents about things they remembered from the night their mother vanished.

"They were beginning to verbalize more," said attorney Steve Downing, whose clients had custody of the children. "The oldest boy talked about that they went camping and that mommy was in the trunk. Mom and dad got out of the car and Mom disappeared."
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https://www.deseretnews.com/article...nal-act-of-control-kills-him-2-sons.html?pg=3
 
Qman said:
At first I was angry. Now I am just sick to my stomach. I wonder if we need to institute a mental evaluation before allowing people to have/raise kids. I don't know how you prevent this. Maybe the solution would be worse then the problem.

This is just horrible, horrible, horrible.
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In the movie Parenthood, Keanu Reeves' character says:
"You know, Mrs. Buckman, you need a license to buy a dog, to drive a car - ***, you even need a license to catch a fish. But they'll let any ************ be a father."
 
If the kids memories came under the interrogation of Susan's family I would be suspicious of its credibility.
 
Either people are ignoring it or not getting my double entendre/ joke about spanking. How disappointing.
 
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