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fufo said:
Is it possible to extend a player for 5 years?


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AFIK you can only do this for players who meet the designated rookie player criteria, which none of our players do. You can can them a five year contract when their current contract expires, which would be next summer, but not before.
 
If the Jazz are unsure enough about Exum to want him to play summer league, I kind of think they are not in the mindset to offering him an extension.

Or the reverse logic could apply, and they wanted to see whether he could stand out, as a way of measuring his progress.

Don't know.

My guess is they try to extend Hood. He turns it down and signs a max offer sheet somewhere else.
Dante gets ***** off that he wasn't offered an extension and has a break out year and the Jazz are surprised when he takes the QO and becomes a free agent in 2019.

Doomsday scenario.
 
I hope we hit the re-set the reset button but that's unlikely. My guess is we retain both Exum/Hood to build around, along with Mitchell/Gobert(/Bradley) + Rubio/Ingles(/hopefully Crowder) providing leadership.

I also expect DL to potentially move Favors/JJ for future assets by the deadline depending on where we stand in the playoff hunt (& hopefully dump Burks regardless). As well as look for opportunistic deals to keep us competitive while continuing to build towards the future. I'm curious to see how he approaches this.
 
How do you manage giving Exum real minutes and which gives leverage at the negotiating table?

If he's trying to prove himself and we keep him on the bench to keep his price down it could get awkward.

Even Hood, we want him to win MIP? Well thats 100% a max offer sheet. Otto Porter signed a max offer with every '**** you' player advantage imaginable to try to prevent Washington from matching and it still won't stop them.

We just lost Hayward because we let him go get himself a similar contract.

We are not in a position to let home grown talent walk. If we can get them on somewhat team friendly deals by taking a chance on them then just do it, ride or die with our guys. If if blows up in our face then what was plan B? Sign mid tier free agents with that money?
 
Et tu Brute said:
If the Jazz are unsure enough about Exum to want him to play summer league, I kind of think they are not in the mindset to offering him an extension.

Or the reverse logic could apply, and they wanted to see whether he could stand out, as a way of measuring his progress.

Don't know.

My guess is they try to extend Hood. He turns it down and signs a max offer sheet somewhere else.
Dante gets ***** off that he wasn't offered an extension and has a break out year and the Jazz are surprised when he takes the QO and becomes a free agent in 2019.

Doomsday scenario.
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TMK, Exum asked to play in SL. Big difference.
 
Bawse Dawg said:
How do you manage giving Exum real minutes and which gives leverage at the negotiating table?

If he's trying to prove himself and we keep him on the bench to keep his price down it could get awkward.

Even Hood, we want him to win MIP? Well thats 100% a max offer sheet. Otto Porter signed a max offer with every '**** you' player advantage imaginable to try to prevent Washington from matching and it still won't stop them.

We just lost Hayward because we let him go get himself a similar contract.

We are not in a position to let home grown talent walk. If we can get them on somewhat team friendly deals by taking a chance on them then just do it, ride or die with our guys. If if blows up in our face then what was plan B? Sign mid tier free agents with that money?
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This. Larry Bird isn't walking through that door...
 
Hedda Gambler said:
Yes, we can do it until the new season starts IIRC.
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If this is correct, then you have to try and extend both now. For some reason I thought we could extend these guy later than that.

This kind of sucks, as I'm not sure either one will want to extend based on last year's performance.
 
♪alt13 said:
Would you rather I made statements based on what I have yet to see?

(Btw I was high on Gobert while many here were still complaining about his hands. That kid showed potential the second he flew into SLC. Even when I squint at Exum he still looks like a turkey necked kid that isn't very good at basketball)
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Yeah, my bad. I was thinking we could extend these guys into the next year.
We should try and extend both players. Not sure either will agree, since they both had kind of meh years last year.
 
Cappy_Smurf said:
If this is correct, then you have to try and extend both now. For some reason I thought we could extend these guy later than that.

This kind of sucks, as I'm not sure either one will want to extend based on last year's performance.
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It may depend on what type of free agency they each have. In other words, Hill was a UFA and iirc, we were able to try to re-sign him pre-March 1. That may only be the case for vets with a certain amount of years though. And restricted free agents, Dante in this case, may fall under an entirely different calendar altogether.
 
Bawse Dawg said:
Do what you think is best but Hoood WILL get a huge deal from someone. If Tim Hardaway get it then Hood will easily. Letting a dude go into RFA gets you a better deal 0% of the time. If you aren't sure about the future of Hood and Exum then fine see what happens, maybe keep one who you'd end up maxing.

Super risky move is to do the extensions right now for the best deal and pray. Could totally cripple us if we give Exum like $12 million and then he still stinks we are screwed.

Decent move is to let them earn it and then midway trough the season re-evaluate. But they will only get more expensive if they are 'earning' extensions.

I think if I could get both for $30 million I'd just do it. **** it. I'm optimistic. If you wait and they earn it then it costs you $10 million extra minimum.
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It depends on how risk adverse you are as a person and how risk adverse your agent is.

Favors was risk adverse, or his agent talked him into being risk adverse, when he signed that extension.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
It depends on how risk adverse you are as a person and how risk adverse your agent is.

Favors was risk adverse, or his agent talked him into being risk adverse, when he signed that extension.
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Pet peeve: the word is "averse", not "adverse". Adverse means something completely different.
 
Rodney's cap hold is about $8 million. If the Jazz are prepared to pay him the max, they should hold off on his extension and save cap space. Exum' cap hold is $15 million. They should try to extend him now if they can get him to agree to a deal that starts for less than that.
 
The biggest reason to extend him is probably to just get a regular 4 year contract instead of having to match some poison pill with player options and trade kickers.
We'd still have Hayward at 16m a year if it wasn't for that player option.
 
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