Exum Injured

[gregbroncs]

This is not about this season. It's about his development and trajectory as a player for the next 2-3-4 years and about Jazz' ability to evaluate his progress. Now he misses 12 months and is in his third year playing post ACL surgery(there is some evidence that players level falls immediately after ACL surgery while they get used to and learn to trust the new reconstructed joints). So in year 3 we still wouldn't know what we have either way, especially if he doesn't play well... And then the last year of his rookie contract comes.

It's such a waste and such a setback. I absolutely hate this. It makes me wanna throw up. I don't care about next season. We weren't going to be contenders either way, with or without him, it doesn't matter much for next season's performance. But it would have mattered hell of a lot for his development and now he probably won't be back to full strength until year 4 of his contract and that screws us over much more than him barely missing 1 season of play.

Or it means we get a Curry like deal on his next contract and he blows up and becomes one of the best players in the league. Lets be honest, GS doesn't win the title if Curry wasn't hurt a significant portion of his rookie contract. Because Curry would have cost a lot more than he did if there were not injury concerns.
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Not saying he's Steph Curry, just that you can't be sure of anything you just said.
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I hate the injury but these guys are going to play basketball in the off season. Either in those FIBA games or pickup games, or over at the practice facility with the Jazz staff. They can get hurt doing any of those things.

 

[The Midnight]

This is not about this season. It's about his development and trajectory as a player for the next 2-3-4 years and about Jazz' ability to evaluate his progress. Now he misses 12 months and is in his third year playing post ACL surgery(there is some evidence that players level falls immediately after ACL surgery while they get used to and learn to trust the new reconstructed joints). So in year 3 we still wouldn't know what we have either way, especially if he doesn't play well... And then the last year of his rookie contract comes.

It's such a waste and such a setback. I absolutely hate this. It makes me wanna throw up. I don't care about next season. We weren't going to be contenders either way, with or without him, it doesn't matter much for next season's performance. But it would have mattered hell of a lot for his development and now he probably won't be back to full strength until year 4 of his contract and that screws us over much more than him barely missing 1 season of play.

Yeah and if it is an ACL I think the most prudent action for DL, both short, medium, and long term is to target an up and coming PG and cash in on our assets and go get him.


1. It will help us be more competitive in the upcoming season and being fair to Hayward, Favors, Gobert showing them that we are serious about winning

2. In the case that Exum doesn't pan out post injury, there is at least a backup talent ready to take over

3. If Exum does come back strong, we still have an asset in the young PG that we have developed and we can trade him away if we wanted to


I really do think this would be the most prudent course of action. If Exum does miss a year with ACL I would be very surprised if we go the whole year with Burke, Cotton and Neto without DL making a trade and move a few assets around.

 

[fishonjazz]

This is not about this season.

Actually that is exactly what is being discussed

. Tell me why I should be excited about next season?

 

[Jamezz]

I'm thinking the same. Burks will need some serious coaching to grasp the position but he has played pg before and I think his court vision/passing is under-rated (and underutilized since that has not been what he has been asked to do very often).
I like the idea of having your best players on the court together as much as possible

My boy AB will step up to the the plate and kick some serious ***, mark my words.

 

[fishonjazz]

Or it means we get a Curry like deal on his next contract and he blows up and becomes one of the best players in the league.

Yep.
I mentioned this earlier

 

[♪alt13]

This is not about this season. It's about his development and trajectory as a player for the next 2-3-4 years and about Jazz' ability to evaluate his progress. Now he misses 12 months and is in his third year playing post ACL surgery(there is some evidence that players level falls immediately after ACL surgery while they get used to and learn to trust the new reconstructed joints). So in year 3 we still wouldn't know what we have either way, especially if he doesn't play well... And then the last year of his rookie contract comes.

It's such a waste and such a setback. I absolutely hate this. It makes me wanna throw up. I don't care about next season. We weren't going to be contenders either way, with or without him, it doesn't matter much for next season's performance. But it would have mattered hell of a lot for his development and now he probably won't be back to full strength until year 4 of his contract and that screws us over much more than him barely missing 1 season of play.

I said it sux and it does but...
There is still reason to be excited about this team. Was Exum going to explode and turn the Jazz into a contender? Maybe, but probably not. The Jazz can find a pg. Dante is young and hopefully will heal well. We still have plenty of time to evaluate him. He will be a restricted FA in a few years. When that time comes we will pay him what he is worth and have four more years to continue his development. Nobody needs to tie a belt around their neck at this point.

 

[Doublea]

This is what I want. (If exum is out)

Go get a vet pg, hopefully someone like George hill. The other starters deserve it. Keep exum out for the season. Next season bring exum slowly along with him being the main pg back up. The season after that make him the starter if he has proven that. Then we can either keep our vet pg as a backup or let him go.

 

[Cappy_Smurf]

Trey Burke will be the starter, at least until the deadline. Anyone hoping to trade for a starting pg before then is going to be disappointed.

 

[Ron Mexico]

If its a grade 1 tear he could be back in a couple months. If its a grade 3 tear he is out for the season but will be back to full strength or probably better next season.

 

[sgjazzfan]

If its a grade 1 tear he could be back in a couple months. If its a grade 3 tear he is out for the season but will be back to full strength or probably better next season.

With a grade 1 sprain, they probably wouldn't be able to diagnose that on exam. If the knee is loose, its likely a complete sprain.

 

[Revolution 9]

This is not about this season. It's about his development and trajectory as a player for the next 2-3-4 years and about Jazz' ability to evaluate his progress. Now he misses 12 months and is in his third year playing post ACL surgery(there is some evidence that players level falls immediately after ACL surgery while they get used to and learn to trust the new reconstructed joints). So in year 3 we still wouldn't know what we have either way, especially if he doesn't play well... And then the last year of his rookie contract comes.

It's such a waste and such a setback. I absolutely hate this. It makes me wanna throw up. I don't care about next season. We weren't going to be contenders either way, with or without him, it doesn't matter much for next season's performance. But it would have mattered hell of a lot for his development and now he probably won't be back to full strength until year 4 of his contract and that screws us over much more than him barely missing 1 season of play.

Then guess what cupcake we've got to move on. What the **** do you want to do? Just throw in the towel. Boo hoo! Its all over!

You can only act like a bitch if Gobert goes down. Yes, then its over. Wahhhh!

 

[Jamezz]

Then guess what cupcake we've got to move on. What the **** do you want to do? Just throw in the towel. Boo hoo! Its all over!

You can only act like a bitch if Gobert goes down. Yes, then its over. Wahhhh!

I would take offense.

 

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List of NBA players who had ACL tear:

 

[The Midnight]

This is what I want. (If exum is out)

Go get a vet pg, hopefully someone like George hill. The other starters deserve it. Keep exum out for the season. Next season bring exum slowly along with him being the main pg back up. The season after that make him the starter if he has proven that. Then we can either keep our vet pg as a backup or let him go.

George Hill would be somewhat affordable, the only problem is the Pacers doesn't seem to have a back-up PG who could take over the reign... so the Pacers would be very reluctant to trade him and the price would likely be artificially high.


We need to target teams with an oversupply of PGs...

 

[The Midnight]

David Locke ‏@Lockedonsports 8m8 minutes ago
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Confirmed.

 

[colton]

I hate the injury but these guys are going to play basketball in the off season. Either in those FIBA games or pickup games, or over at the practice facility with the Jazz staff. They can get hurt doing any of those things.

Yep. I seriously don't understand the guys who are saying, "The Jazz should never have let him play that game!" An injury like that could have happened in ANY game. So you're going to tell the kid not to play any basketball at all during the summer?

 

[♪alt13]

Yep. I seriously don't understand the guys who are saying, "The Jazz should never have let him play that game!" An injury like that could have happened in ANY game. So you're going to tell the kid not to play any basketball at all during the summer?

I think I understand. They are the same people that if he didn't play would have been super pissed that Dante had passed up an opportunity to grow. "Playing w/ his national team would have made Exum more confident. Confidence is all he needs to become an all star. DL is a big dumb head."

 

[My2Cents]

Yep. I seriously don't understand the guys who are saying, "The Jazz should never have let him play that game!" An injury like that could have happened in ANY game. So you're going to tell the kid not to play any basketball at all during the summer?

Agreed. The only thing I might want to see is a player like Exum waiting out the friendlies. Apparently Ingles is sitting out the Boomers’ qualifying games to "recover from a tough first NBA season". Why not Exum? At least it would lessen the probability of injury.

 

[♪alt13]

Agreed. The only thing I might want to see is a player like Exum waiting out the friendlies. Apparently Ingles is sitting out the Boomers’ qualifying games to "recover from a tough first NBA season". Why not Exum? At least it would lessen the probability of injury.

I think Ingles is sitting out cuz he is getting married.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Agreed. The only thing I might want to see is a player like Exum waiting out the friendlies. Apparently Ingles is sitting out the Boomers’ qualifying games to "recover from a tough first NBA season". Why not Exum? At least it would lessen the probability of injury.

Singles played a full season of Euro league, NBA, and international play.