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Family trip to Utah in November

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For real, it's a very white state. And it's not exactly a place where lots of people love, unless you're into the outdoors or military. And I can't say I've seen too many black people into hunting and fly fishing. I'm sure there are some, but by and large the demographic is white.
Yeah, but Montana is about half a percent black. Its just wild.

All the alt right people should move to Montana.

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For real, it's a very white state. And it's not exactly a place where lots of people love, unless you're into the outdoors or military. And I can't say I've seen too many black people into hunting and fly fishing. I'm sure there are some, but by and large the demographic is white.

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ppl from India?

Booming tech industry.
 
Thank you all for your advice and suggestions.

My wife and I drove down Nov 9-18. We got to SLC on the 10th and went to see the Jazz play the Heat and the Nets. We walked around SLC a bit and we went to the main Family History Center which was like going to Disneyland for me. I have been thinking of starting a genealogy business for a few months and I absolutely loved being there. We even ran into an elderly volunteer from Edmonton, Alberta.

Fearing that there'd be nothing to do in SLC on a Sunday, we went to Park City. I don't think I've ever been at that kind of altitude and I was surprised that it made no difference as far as breathing goes. Keep in mind that our mountain resort Banff is at 4600 feet and Park City is at over 10000. I quite enjoyed the road going up from SLC to Summit County.

We went to Moab on Monday and checked out Arches that day and then Canyonlands NP the next day. Again, I'm used to natural beauty, but we have no deserts in Canada so it was a quite the experience. Arches was so beautiful and the weather was perfect. Plus, I just love driving.

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We've been to the Grand Canyon before and I have to say Canyonlands comapres quite favourably. We went off-roading in Canyonlands as my wife recently got a small Jeep and we wanted to test it out. I have never owned a 4x4 before not gone off the road(I don't count visiting relatives in Bosnia where villages are connected by "roads" that sometimes seem more like muddy paths) and it was mind-blowing. Apparently, 65-70 degrees Fahrenheit counts as winter in southern Utah and Arizona so every park we went to was dead. Just a handful of pensioners and the occasional construction crew. We drove for 3 hours and it felt like being in a Jeep commercial.

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We then took a detour to the Navajo Nation to see the Antelope Canyon, whose name none of our friends and family seem to be familiar with but immediately recognize it from default backgrounds and screensavers on Windows. Well worth the 80 American we paid to go, and even awesomer because we had to drive down Monument Valley to get to it.

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We then drove back to hit Zion, which, as amazing as it was, was probably only the 3rd best Utah NP we've seen. Maybe it's that it's more temperate and we have scenery like that here in Canada. It also rained that day, but going through the tunnel from Mt Carmel JCT was pretty cool. We slept in Cedar City where we actually managed to find quite a decent Italian restaurant that served actual veal and then started the long journey home.

Of course, the best part was finally seeing the Jazz in person. I'd been waiting some 22-23 years, and you have to imagine that having become a fan in a country still involved in a war at the time, I never imagined as a boy that I'd actually get to see them. It was an amazing and surreal experience. I'm not sure those of you who grew up or lived in Utah can imagine what it's like being an out-of-state Jazz fan. I know of two other Jazz fans in my whole province, and they both post here. As a matter of fact, a week before I went to Utah, @MVP and I went to a local pub to watch the horrendous Raptors game. There was a snow storm in Calgary that night, so there were only 2 other tables in the bar. One of the guys from another table came up to us because he said he had never seen a Jazz fan in his life, let alone two in the same room. I completely believe that. It's been like that my whole life.

It was then decidedly strange to find myself in a SLC on game night and to see all these people wearing Jazz gear. As I said, surreal. It was like that bit in the Ugly Duckling where the duckling finally meets other swans. Or how my Jewish friends describe going to Israel for the first time. After 22 years, finally a place where I'm not the minority. And I absolutely loved the family atmosphere. I loved how many kids were at the game, how the fans stood up and cheered the team off the court after the Heat game, and how nice the ushers were to us, especially after we told them we drove from Canada just to see the Jazz. I heckled Dragić so hard(but clean) in both English and Slovenian.

But more than anything else, I realized why I'm a Jazz fan. As much as I like to talk about an ancient video game determining that, I think there was more to it than that. I love that the Jazz are a small team with a mostly local, loyal fanbase. I love that they're the only NBA team to be owned by a trust. I love that the team refurbished the arena, which looks stunning, without asking for obscene amounts of public cash. I love that the organization is loyal to coaches(even ones named Corbin) and players. I love that those of us who are out of state are weird, quirky types and generally life-long fans. I'd hate the idea of having bandwaggon fans like the Lakers or the current Cavs(until LBJ leaves).

The Jazz may or may not win a championship in my lifetime. If I were a betting man, I'd probably bet against it. But I wouldn't trade my Jazz fandom with any other fan base. I've thoroughly enjoyed and been excited about every season this far. Even in the really lean years, there was always someone to cheer and something to look forward to. My wife bought me a DM45 T-shirt at the Nets game, and I just washed it for the first time last night. I must've worn every other day since that game. I also stumbled upon some Panini NBA stickers(last season's vintage) at a dollar store in Page, Arizona. Bought 7 packs for about 60 stickers. One of them was a silver Rudy Gobert one. Life is ****ing good.

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Apparently, 65-70 degrees Fahrenheit counts as winter in southern Utah and Arizona so every park we went to was dead.

70 F is rare this late in the year. You got lucky. Plus, a lot of the traffic is Utah based so with kids in school many don't visit this time of year.
 
Loved your account of your trip. Glad you had a great time in our beautiful state.
 
Thank you all for your advice and suggestions.

Post of the month! Sounds like you definitely made the most of your trip and I'm glad you had a great experience! I remember my first Jazz game, after having been an out-of-state fan for 7 or 8 years. I had the same sort of surreal experience.

Also, for what it's worth, Park City is only 7000 ft, not 10000 ft.
 
Also, for what it's worth, Park City is only 7000 ft, not 10000 ft.

So it is. I could've sworn they were selling all these shirts that said 10000+. Might that be at the top of one of the gondola lifts that start in town?
 
So it is. I could've sworn they were selling all these shirts that said 10000+. Might that be at the top of one of the gondola lifts that start in town?
Very possibly. I know Timpanogos, the highest peak around Provo/Orem is 10,800 ft.
 
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