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Eye roll, I don't see how he has a case. He would have to prove beyond reasonable doubt he didn't say what he said. The organization is not responsible for his identity being released (he is, he went on the news) nor are they responsible for the reporting or fake accounts that happened after it.
 
Not to mention his racist rant on Twitter, since deleted of course. This is going nowhere.

Unfortunately they will probably settle. He'll end up with some amount to just go away. Probably cheaper than fighting it.
 
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Is he Yamers?

If fairness Yamers ain't no racist but he is rather fond of a rant.

LogGrad98 said:
Not to mention his racist rant on Twitter, since deleted of course. This is going nowhere.

Unfortunately they will probably settle. He'll end up with some amount to just go away. Probably cheaper then fighting it.
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Sad but true there will be a magic number. My work settled with some arsehole we had arrested a number of years ago, he was completely 100 percent in the wrong but it was cheaper to pay him to **** off rather than go to court.
 
Rubashov said:
Is he Yamers?

If fairness Yamers ain't no racist but he is rather fond of a rant.



Sad but true there will be a magic number. My work settled with some arsehole we had arrested a number of years ago, he was completely 100 percent in the wrong but it was cheaper to pay him to **** off rather than go to court.
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We regularly pay out between 2k and 6k depending on the complaint. In California you fire anyone, for nearly any reason, and they file suit because the laws very heavily favor the employee. This means I have someone who regularly skipped out on work, then had a fight in the parking lot with another employee for no good reason (investigation turned up that he thought the other employee was taking his favorite parking spot on purpose). So he met his end due to both attendance and the fight (which happened while we were processing the attendance term). He sued. They always tack on ******** things like failure to provide a break period for multiple dates, failure to provide lunch, **** that is very hard to prove and that people in the courts just automatically assume is the evil company taking it out on the little guy. So he sued and we gave him $6500 to go away. It really sucks and is a morale killer because how do I explain that to the people that come to work, do their job, and cause no problems when the dude plasters it all over social media when they all knew he was a douche? It sucks.
 
LogGrad98 said:
We regularly pay out between 2k and 6k depending on the complaint. In California you fire anyone, for nearly any reason, and they file suit because the laws very heavily favor the employee. This means I have someone who regularly skipped out on work, then had a fight in the parking lot with another employee for no good reason (investigation turned up that he thought the other employee was taking his favorite parking spot on purpose). So he met his end due to both attendance and the fight (which happened while we were processing the attendance term). He sued. They always tack on ******** things like failure to provide a break period for multiple dates, failure to provide lunch, **** that is very hard to prove and that people in the courts just automatically assume is the evil company taking it out on the little guy. So he sued and we gave him $6500 to go away. It really sucks and is a morale killer because how do I explain that to the people that come to work, do their job, and cause no problems when the dude plasters it all over social media when they all knew he was a douche? It sucks.
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I like the guy he sounds like a go getter, id fire you and give him your job. Even with body cameras which record everything its still cheaper than court. I cant remember what our arsehole got for some reason 70k comes to mind but i im not sure.

I arrested a dude today who tried to attack me with a weapon, he made lots of noise about charging me with assault and suing, i wrote a report which will more or less double as my statement plus i have CCTV and body camera footage in support. Even still the cops aren't interested dude has an extensive criminal history.
 
I wonder if this guy will produce some evidence that corroborates what he says. If not, between the others saying he was being a jackass and his tweets, he doesn't seem all that believable.
 
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With what he posted after the incident and ALSO what was said during the incident shouldn't be something to double down on.

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Not sure what is true or not, but this Reddit post is worth reading:



It seems that some of the alleged Twitter posts may have beem fake, and states the fan reported that he said Westbrook should sit down and ice his knees (backed up by a witness) before Westbrook made his comments.

If this is the case, and the guy received death threats, lost his job, etc., then he should get paid.

Hopefully the lawsuit resolves these issues and are reported publicly. You better believe defense lawyers are going to look into this very thoroughly, and any racist acts by this guy will come out, or perhaps it will show there aren't any.

Plan on fans in the vicinity to get questioned. Should be interesting. Hope it doesn't settle. Let the truth come out either way.
 
"The attorneys are seeking $68 million in damages for Keisel and $32 million for Huff on claims of defamation and infliction of emotional distress."

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test_name_please_ignore said:
Not sure what is true or not, but this Reddit post is worth reading:



It seems that some of the alleged Twitter posts may have beem fake, and states the fan reported that he said Westbrook should sit down and ice his knees (backed up by a witness) before Westbrook made his comments.

If this is the case, and the guy received death threats, lost his job, etc., then he should get paid.

Hopefully the lawsuit resolves these issues and are reported publicly. You better believe defense lawyers are going to look into this very thoroughly, and any racist acts by this guy will come out, or perhaps it will show there aren't any.

Plan on fans in the vicinity to get questioned. Should be interesting. Hope it doesn't settle. Let the truth come out either way.
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Let's assume that there is a conspiracy against him. He still got into a verbal altercation with an opposing player, that alone is enough to ban him for life. The Jazz and Vivint arena are just like any other business, they can refuse service for any reason. The Jazz and Westbrook aren't responsible for other people threatening him on Twitter.

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Kyoto said:
Let's assume that there is a conspiracy against him. He still got into a verbal altercation with an opposing player, that alone is enough to ban him for life. The Jazz and Vivint arena are just like any other business, they can refuse service for any reason. The Jazz and Westbrook aren't responsible for other people threatening him on Twitter.

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People post fake tweets all the time. So I can't say one way or the other. And it has been confirmed there was more than one fake account pretending to be this guy and saying horrible things.

However, Gail Miller banned the fan then made a statement about racist, homophobic or other statements from being made. Clearly it was regarding this fan. If they did have knowledge he didn't say anything racist, but frame the ban in a way that it was racist comment based, he may have a claim.

Yes, the Jazz could ban you, but as a private figure, they can't recklessly defame you, and that has been a winning argument in many defamation cases.

If they had video or other corroborating witnesses saying he told Westbrook to ice his knees (which Westbrook was doing), but banned him anyway, when historically they have let fans say any similar and much worse banter to a player (heard much worse near courtside and the court monitors don't do anything) then release a statement on racist comments right after, what does the world infer?

Most likely, the Jazz legal team required the organization to due an ample investigation and the lawsuit is a farce, but if that is not the case, the Jazz should refuse to settle. Let the truth be known in court, get witnesses, and if allowed, forensic data to prove whether the purported Tweets were his or not, and let the guy be ruined forever.
 
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First we have the media and their handling of Richard Jewell.

Now, we have the media and their handling of Richard Tool.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Not to mention his racist rant on Twitter, since deleted of course. This is going nowhere.

Unfortunately they will probably settle. He'll end up with some amount to just go away. Probably cheaper than fighting it.
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Wasn't that a fake account?
 
LogGrad98 said:
Not to mention his racist rant on Twitter, since deleted of course. This is going nowhere.

Unfortunately they will probably settle. He'll end up with some amount to just go away. Probably cheaper than fighting it.
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Like the guy is a douche, but all except 1 of those twitter accounts were people who found his account, changed their profile to look like his, and impersonated him. He wasn’t actually the one saying those things on twitter.
 
The only hang up may be if the Jazz were specific in why they banned him, when they handed out the ban. If they end up having no proof he actually said what he said, it may not get thrown out, in that case, he very may at least get settlement money the more I look at it.
 
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