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Fantasy Draft: Semi-Finals (Spycam1 vs franklin)

Which team do you think would win in a 7 games series?

  • Spycam1

    Votes: 16 53.3%
  • franklin

    Votes: 14 46.7%

  • Total voters
    30
  • Poll closed .

spycam1

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Team Spycam1

PG- Lebron James / Tony Parker
SG- Ray Allen / Allen Iverson
SF- Vince Carter / Andrie Kirilenko
PF- David Robinson / Chris Webber
C- Patrick Ewing / Chris Bosh

Team franklin


PG- Steve Nash/Baron Davis
SG- Kobe Bryant/Havlicek
SF- John Havlicek/Ron Artest/Carmelo Anthony
PF- Karl Malone/Willis Reed/O'Neal
C- Big Thurmond/Willis/O'Neal

Spycam1's case:

Down low:

franklin's team is great defensively down low, but is not as good as my team offensively. Ewing, Robinson, and Webber were all big time scorers in their prime, and frank only has one player like that down low--Malone. I win the battle down low.

Perimeter:

Lebron > Kobe, ESPECIALLY if we're talking about them as PG's. I just can't see Kobe starting at PG and being able to make the offense run smoothly. That's just not what he did.

Allen > Artest, ESPECIALLY if we're talking about them as SG's. Artest was a great banger defensively, not chasing shooters like Allen off screens. Allen was simply a better player than Artest in his prime, and the match-up would play to his advantage.

Carter > Anthony. Cater scored just as much as Melo did in his prime, but was a better passer and defender. I think he'd also do much better in a team concept than Melo. The ball stops every time Melo touches it, where as Carter had seasons where he averaged 5APG, and was incredible at moving without the ball, catching alley-oop passes etc. Carter would have great chemistry with Lebron, but Melo and Kobe would have pretty poor chemistry, IMO.

Overall:

I feel my team wins 4/5 matchups in the starting 5, and my pieces would actually mesh together. Kobe at PG forces him to play away from his strengths, as does Nash at SG and so on. My team is more talented, and has better chemistry.


franklin's case:

Malone is going to crush your power forward-less lineup all night long, forcing a switch to Weber. Fine with me. I've got my own 2nd tier player in Jermain O'Neal & playing Weber off as some advantage is a wash. Thurmond, Reed, & Malone are going to press on you all night long & run you off the floor. Your bigs are going to have legs of putty at the end of each game, & will really feel the pain in games 3-4.

Nash will pick & roll you to death & provide dagger outside shooting. Nash 3pt>>>Ray Allen.

I have 3 strong players to stop LeBron James but you have no one that will come close to containing Kobe Bryant. The beauty of playing Artest & Havlicek is that neither is a sacrifice on the offensive end. Throwing 3 players at LeBron while making him work the other end of the floor will slow him down & take him out of the game for extended periods of resting.

Let's look at the benches:

One dimensional Tony Parker vs. tough defending Baron Davis.
Allen Iverson vs. Havlicek
AK47 vs. Ron Artest & Anthony
The Chris Sissies vs. Willis Reed & Jermain O'Neal.

My bench is so much deeper & it's not even close.
 
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Kobe AND Melo on one team??


There is no ****ing way you're getting my vote.
 
Spike wins (the whole thing). But mad props to Franklin for putting together a great team picking where he did.
 
I want to vote Spycam, but his team is soft. And Malone again emasculating Robinson is a microcosm of most of the matchup.
 
I'll never understand Nash off the bench and taking the ball out of his hands. Kobe and Carmelo on the floor at the same time is also a bit of a nightmare. Artest and Havlicek are a big deal, though. Artest is not getting nearly enough credit overall. He's a top-5 perimeter defender ever, IMO. He has strength and desire most perimeter players never have to fight through screens, in addition to ample athleticism, speed, and length. Basically a perfect defender. A versatile 20 ppg scorer until he went to the Lakers.
 
This one is kind of hard. I like the talent on Franklin's team, but like dalamon, it's hard getting past melo and Bryant on the same team. We seen how well it went with Melo and A.I.

Still undecided
 
franklin easily. Melo can play better than normal with ball dominant players like AI. Kobe and Melo in same team, what a clutch performance.
 
Hey, whoa, when did this thing get started? I haven't even done a write up yet.

For starters, this:

Willis Reed is also going to chop Bosh's and Webber's balls off. Not to mention Thurmond.

franklin flopmonsters starting lineup:

Steve Nash/Baron Davis
Kobe Bryant/Havlicek
John Havlicek/Ron Artest/Carmelo Anthony
Karl Malone/Willis Reed/O'Neal
Big Thurmond/Willis/O'Neal

Malone is going to crush your power forward-less lineup all night long, forcing a switch to Weber. Fine with me. I've got my own 2nd tier player in Jermain O'Neal & playing Weber off as some advantage is a wash. Thurmond, Reed, & Malone are going to press on you all night long & run you off the floor. Your bigs are going to have legs of putty at the end of each game, & will really feel the pain in games 3-4.

Nash will pick & roll you to death & provide dagger outside shooting. Nash 3pt>>>Ray Allen.

I have 3 strong players to stop LeBron James but you have no one that will come close to containing Kobe Bryant. The beauty of playing Artest & Havlicek is that neither is a sacrifice on the offensive end. Throwing 3 players at LeBron while making him work the other end of the floor will slow him down & take him out of the game for extended periods of resting.

Let's look at the benches:

One dimensional Tony Parker vs. tough defending Baron Davis.
Allen Iverson vs. Havlicek
AK47 vs. Ron Artest & Anthony
The Chris Sissies vs. Willis Reed & Jermain O'Neal.

My bench is so much deeper & it's not even close.
 
Hey, whoa, when did this thing get started? I haven't even done a write up yet.

For starters, this:



franklin flopmonsters starting lineup:

Steve Nash/Baron Davis
Kobe Bryant/Havlicek
John Havlicek/Ron Artest/Carmelo Anthony
Karl Malone/Willis Reed/O'Neal
Big Thurmond/Willis/O'Neal

Malone is going to crush your power forward-less lineup all night long, forcing a switch to Weber. Fine with me. I've got my own 2nd tier player in Jermain O'Neal & playing Weber off as some advantage is a wash. Thurmond, Reed, & Malone are going to press on you all night long & run you off the floor. Your bigs are going to have legs of putty at the end of each game, & will really feel the pain in games 3-4.

Nash will pick & roll you to death & provide dagger outside shooting. Nash 3pt>>>Ray Allen.

I have 3 strong players to stop LeBron James but you have no one that will come close to containing Kobe Bryant. The beauty of playing Artest & Havlicek is that neither is a sacrifice on the offensive end. Throwing 3 players at LeBron while making him work the other end of the floor will slow him down & take him out of the game for extended periods of resting.

Let's look at the benches:

One dimensional Tony Parker vs. tough defending Baron Davis.
Allen Iverson vs. Havlicek
AK47 vs. Ron Artest & Anthony
The Chris Sissies vs. Willis Reed & Jermain O'Neal.

My bench is so much deeper & it's not even close.

If I had seen this revised starting line up I might have gone the other way...

Nash running pick & roll with Malone, with Kobe waiting on the wing? It's a no contest whichever team you play. I know LeBron is good, but put Nash in his prime at PG and he'll run rings upon rings around LeBron out there on the perimeter again and again. Not to mention Malone teaching LeBron a thing or two about toughness with those screens. If there's 1 guy that won't back down its Malone - I can see him flooring LeBron on those picks with Nash hitting open 3's or hitting Kobe for an easy 2.

Can I somehow change my vote?
 
Hey, whoa, when did this thing get started? I haven't even done a write up yet.

For starters, this:



franklin flopmonsters starting lineup:

Steve Nash/Baron Davis
Kobe Bryant/Havlicek
John Havlicek/Ron Artest/Carmelo Anthony
Karl Malone/Willis Reed/O'Neal
Big Thurmond/Willis/O'Neal

Malone is going to crush your power forward-less lineup all night long, forcing a switch to Weber. Fine with me. I've got my own 2nd tier player in Jermain O'Neal & playing Weber off as some advantage is a wash. Thurmond, Reed, & Malone are going to press on you all night long & run you off the floor. Your bigs are going to have legs of putty at the end of each game, & will really feel the pain in games 3-4.

Nash will pick & roll you to death & provide dagger outside shooting. Nash 3pt>>>Ray Allen.

I have 3 strong players to stop LeBron James but you have no one that will come close to containing Kobe Bryant. The beauty of playing Artest & Havlicek is that neither is a sacrifice on the offensive end. Throwing 3 players at LeBron while making him work the other end of the floor will slow him down & take him out of the game for extended periods of resting.

Let's look at the benches:

One dimensional Tony Parker vs. tough defending Baron Davis.
Allen Iverson vs. Havlicek
AK47 vs. Ron Artest & Anthony
The Chris Sissies vs. Willis Reed & Jermain O'Neal.

My bench is so much deeper & it's not even close.

I told everyone on Sunday that it would start Monday evening, and if you didn't send in a new write-up I would just assume you wanted to use the same one. Sorry about that, but there was probably 30 hours of notice.
 
frank, I changed your starting lineup and etc. to what you just posted. Hope that's all you wanted to change cause I'll be out a lot today.
 
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