The Thriller
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Of course, who was taking AK's place? One legged Harpring? CJ? Of course the Jazz statistically would appear better with him than without. But that's not a case for AK. But a case against Harpring and CJ.
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Of course, who was taking AK's place? One legged Harpring? CJ? Of course the Jazz statistically would appear better with him than without. But that's not a case for AK. But a case against Harpring and CJ.
The Thriller
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KOC is an idiot for keeping a contract that he needed to unload. Perhaps everyone else and their dog knew that too, so that's why he couldn't unload it. But most Jazz fans feel like we didn't make much of an effort to unload him. The Jazz franchise typically doesn't make a move unless their hand is forced by that particular player. Such as Dfish, Carlos Arroyo (Sloan), Carlos Boozer (with all the stupid comments made), Gordan Giricek (fight with Sloan), Dwill (Sloan).
One of the issues I think that has been misunderstood by most Jazz fans, myself included, was what Jerry was doing when he would sit AK for extended periods. I used to bitch and moan about it, but now realize it was done with a purpose, and the way Jerry handles players. It was his way of trying to motivate them. He did the same with DWill in his rookie year, and it worked. DWill came out with a vengeance and turned into being a lot better player than most of us expected. But AK just doesn't have the mental toughness of DWill, and the ploy backfired.
Jerry saw that AK wasn't working hard enough, that he wasn't improving and at times wasn't listening to Jerry, one of the greatest perimeter defenders in NBA history, about staying in front of his man and playing defense with his feet instead of always going for the block to pad his stats. Jerry realized this, and tried to get his attention, but unfortunately AK did not respond.
Jerry saw that AK wasn't working hard enough, that he wasn't improving and at times wasn't listening to Jerry, one of the greatest perimeter defenders in NBA history, about staying in front of his man and playing defense with his feet instead of always going for the block to pad his stats. Jerry realized this, and tried to get his attention, but unfortunately AK did not respond.
//r00t 4 Jazz
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Speaking of living in the past did anybody see or notice how Battier played this year, not saying he'd keep playing that way but he was brutal this year or at least that's how I remember it, looks like it from this as well.
PPG 7.6
RPG 4.50
APG 2.3
FG% 0.426
3pt% 0.333
PPG 7.6
RPG 4.50
APG 2.3
FG% 0.426
3pt% 0.333
Offensively all he does is stand in the corner and shoot 3s. Considering he is shooting 33% I would still take AK any day of the year.
Gyp Rosetti
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You should've put "Good Riddance to AK."
Keeping Andrei for $5 million per on a team going anywhere is a good idea that I would endorse. Paying him that kind of money and rebuilding/getting about 7 years younger across the board is clown shoes. Especially when considering he somehow outlasted Boozer, Deron, and Sloan.
It's really, really simple.
It's really, really simple.
Because Jerry had what he considered a viable alternative that he would never get questioned on.
GVC
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The notable exception to this being both the Jazz offense and defense in the 06/07 season (the season AK cried like a little bitch). The Jazz defense was also (barely) better with AK off the court this season.
Bringing back AK wouldn't necessarily be a bad move. If by some miracle the Jazz can lock him into a 2 year contract, he'd be one more 2012 expiring contract (along with Big Al, Millsap, Devin Harris and Raja Bell).
Unfortunately, bringing AK back next season may lead to the Jazz being a better, but still non-contending team next season, which would hurt in the ping pong ball department. Regardless, AK should not be a priority this offseason.
Plenty of nonsense in this thread from the usual short-bus crew. My favorite is the brilliant theme of "Andrei Kirilenko sucks really bad, doesn't help us to win, and is easily replaceable, but I am still pissed when he doesn't play because he is hurt too often."
Yep,
Black Harp can easily replace Boozer,
Korver sucks because he can't play D
D Will is a prince and is our future
Boozer sucks
Okur doesn't block shots.
Well genisus, nobody to blame next year.
Welcome to suck. You clowns are going to get Chuck A Rama Table full of it for the next decade.
Yep,
Black Harp can easily replace Boozer,
Korver sucks because he can't play D
D Will is a prince and is our future
Boozer sucks
Okur doesn't block shots.
Well genisus, nobody to blame next year.
Welcome to suck. You clowns are going to get Chuck A Rama Table full of it for the next decade.
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Well, at least you're not being a bitter old *** face about it.
//r00t 4 Jazz
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bitter *** face, does it look something like this?
And if so how do you get it, from this?
https://www.verysmartbrothas.com/images/bitter-***-05web.jpg
Stifle Tower
Punch Bowl Re-Filler
Not likely. The JAzz FO - and every team EXCEPT Portland - thought the Matthews' offer was outrageous. Wes is a good player, but you don't give that much money to a guy who has been a starter for 1/2 season. As for Korver, his fate was sealed the moment he decided to stop shooting in order to protect his record. Jazz probably would have gone up to $5M for Matthews, regardless of having Okur or AK on the roster. I doubt Korver was in the plans at any point, due to the drafting of Hayward and belief that CJ would be a legitimate starter.
Breast cancer can make your boobs bigger. A pituitary tumor can increase your height and reduce your body fat percentage. Pancreatic cancer can help you lose weight. Damn, why didn't I ever consider it from this angle before?
Lakers_Slapper
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Your a big AK fan but you refer to him as STINKOLINKO? So your a hypocrite? You can only comment him when he plays to your expectations? Well I give you props for admitting to what most people should be ashamed of. I too am an AK fan. Ive never said that about him though. But yea I think the Jazz should definately resign him. Obviously for much less money, but he is still a great defensive player and a decent offensive player as well.
gomretat
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Pearl, why the venom? Never seen this side of you but it is nice to see you post?
Oh, and just for the record so I'm "not just a hater"...
Statistically, no, but most certainly prefer Millsap over Boozer.
I actually argue that Korver was indeed our best defensive wing.
I was on board with this.
It's true.
Hey, I liked Ostertag and appreciated what he brought and knew we needed to get a shot-blocker to replace him. Despite this, I've always loved Memo. Yes, once Ostertag was gone it made us appreciate what a guy like him can bring in hindsight, but let's not underappreciate what someone like Memo brings only to realize it when we have another Ostertag. For years we screamed for a center with some offense. Well, we got it and all some people could do is bitch that he wasn't a shot-blocker.
Statistically, no, but most certainly prefer Millsap over Boozer.
I actually argue that Korver was indeed our best defensive wing.
I was on board with this.
It's true.
Hey, I liked Ostertag and appreciated what he brought and knew we needed to get a shot-blocker to replace him. Despite this, I've always loved Memo. Yes, once Ostertag was gone it made us appreciate what a guy like him can bring in hindsight, but let's not underappreciate what someone like Memo brings only to realize it when we have another Ostertag. For years we screamed for a center with some offense. Well, we got it and all some people could do is bitch that he wasn't a shot-blocker.
Raja Smell > STINKOLINKO