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Pop quiz time!

In which year did Favors get more minutes?

A) His nightmare rookie season ('10-'11)
B) His sophomore season ('11-'12)








If you guessed B, you'd be ****ing wrong.

Per minuet basis or total? Because there were only 66 games played in option B compared to 82 in A.
 
Anyways, the bottom line is that Al needs fewer minutes and most of them need to be with the second unit. Favors and Millsap play very well together and make a much better TEAM than do Al and Paul.
 
Millsap isn't big enough. David Lee puts up good numbers, and his #'s are better each year, but I'm sure if they had someone better on that roster, they'd play him. Do you REALLY think Millsap is the better choice to lead this team to a championship? Or do you just want to settle for first round exits

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But he works hard...what a motor...blah blah, and so on..
Trade Sap while he's worth high value.
 
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checkmate.

Greg, your hate of Millsap has been well beyond reasonable for months now. I think improving every ****ing year for six years and clearly being the best player on the team is full-on deserving of a starting role.

I disagree. Al Jefferson is the best player on the team at the moment.
 
I guess I'm in the minority that Favor's comments were meant/said negatively. At first I thought people were being sarcastic, I didn't think he meant they = Jazz just meant, they = people/media in general. He also had very positive comments at the end of the season and used some of similar words that he had to learn to be ready to play and that he would be ready to play this year etc... I'm sure he wants to play more and wanted more min. last year as well (or he wouldn't be in the NBA) I think people are placing their own connotations and their own feelings of frustrations from last year onto this quote.
 
I guess I'm in the minority that Favor's comments were meant/said negatively. At first I thought people were being sarcastic, I didn't think he meant they = Jazz just meant, they = people/media in general. He also had very positive comments at the end of the season and used some of similar words that he had to learn to be ready to play and that he would be ready to play this year etc... I'm sure he wants to play more and wanted more min. last year as well (or he wouldn't be in the NBA) I think people are placing their own connotations and their own feelings of frustrations from last year onto this quote.

I agree
 
How did they do him wrong last year? He started over Millsap initially but was ineffective and Paul was handed back the starting job. And Favors was constantly in foul trouble when he did get mins. I'd be surprised if he can average 30 mins this season.

I'd like to hear what the original question was before I read anything into his comments. It was written as a comment/opinion by the writer, follwed by the quote which may or may not have been in context.
Agree. To be more specific, when he STARTED, he quickly got into foul trouble and had to sit. When Millsap started, Favors seemed to accumulate fewer fouls...
 
1) Making a big deal out of Favors comments is sensationalizing something that was a passing comment, mostly made to deflect the topic which is smart on his part. NBD
2) He didn't start last year because he didn't deserve to. Way to inconsistent
3) I hope he starts this year and gets more minutes than any of our bigs but if he doesn't earn it, giving him minutes is wrong for him and the team.
4) Sap needs to be the 6th man
 
One of my biggest pet peeves from the media (and to a lesser extent fans) is when an athlete makes a comment and the talking heads all pull out their urim and thummims as they think the comment has multiple layers that only they can translate.

I don't think this is really the case with Favors comments, but this thread reminded me of my pet peeve.
 
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checkmate.

Greg, your hate of Millsap has been well beyond reasonable for months now. I think improving every ****ing year for six years and clearly being the best player on the team is full-on deserving of a starting role.
I don't hate Millsap. I hate how he is used but that's not his deal. I would love Millsap over Jefferson. I'd also rather have Millsap stay and be the main scoring option off of the bench. I'd rather trade Jefferson instead of Millsap. However I don't believe that Millsap can be the starting PF on a team that is a real contender(I doubt Jefferson can be a starter on a real contender either). I do have faith that Favors could be a starter on a real contender.

Favors was not given a real shot at taking the starting spot. He had 2 bad games as a very young player. Pulling him that early showed that they really did only start him due to Millsap's injury. I find it ironic that Paul disappeared for a while during the season yet they never went back to Favors. And instead seemed to give Millsap even more minutes to work his way through it.

Simply put I believe Favors showed enough to get the minutes over both Jefferson and Millsap and think it is a waste that he did not average 30 MPG last season. I don't believe Millsap is any better than him overall. Also Favors' defense by the end of the season showed that he deserves the start as he is our best defensive player of the 3.

I don't care if it's Favors and Jefferson, or Favors and Millsap, or all three of them. But I'd hate to see another season wasted with Jefferson and Millsap starting and getting the bulk of the minutes at C/PF.
 
I wasn't trying to sensationalize the comments, they just stood out to me when reading the article. He seems like a no nonsense type of dude, so it's hard to tell the intention of his comments even when interviewed on video. I'm not necessarily worried about him leaving the Jazz, i'm just worried he's gonna be a surly malcontent like D-Will. We need to trade Al or Milsap before Favors becomes great, and they lose their trade value.
 
I disagree. Al Jefferson is the best player on the team at the moment.

You're not on the turn the reigns over to Kanter willy nilly bandwagon too?

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(^^jumps higher than Kanter)
 
I don't hate Millsap. I hate how he is used but that's not his deal. I would love Millsap over Jefferson. I'd also rather have Millsap stay and be the main scoring option off of the bench. I'd rather trade Jefferson instead of Millsap. However I don't believe that Millsap can be the starting PF on a team that is a real contender(I doubt Jefferson can be a starter on a real contender either). I do have faith that Favors could be a starter on a real contender.

Favors was not given a real shot at taking the starting spot. He had 2 bad games as a very young player. Pulling him that early showed that they really did only start him due to Millsap's injury. I find it ironic that Paul disappeared for a while during the season yet they never went back to Favors. And instead seemed to give Millsap even more minutes to work his way through it.

Simply put I believe Favors showed enough to get the minutes over both Jefferson and Millsap and think it is a waste that he did not average 30 MPG last season. I don't believe Millsap is any better than him overall. Also Favors' defense by the end of the season showed that he deserves the start as he is our best defensive player of the 3.

I don't care if it's Favors and Jefferson, or Favors and Millsap, or all three of them. But I'd hate to see another season wasted with Jefferson and Millsap starting and getting the bulk of the minutes at C/PF.

this is good clarification from a good poster.

One thing: If you'd rather have Millsap over Jefferson, then why all this talk about moving Paul to the bench? I think we can both agree that Kanter isn't ready to start, so it's either Millsap-Favors or Favors-Jefferson, right? Why don't you start a marching band that plays the tune "Jefferson to the pine" and I'll be your first percussionist? We could also play a song about trading Jefferson. Our encore could be about amnestying Jefferson.
 
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