FBI, NCAA and the Utah Jazz
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Drug companies are even worse -- Big Pharma is the richest industry in the world and operates with the biggest profit margins, and the insurance companies are their primary collaborators. Many people don't realize that the U.S. is the only nation in the world that doesn't regulate drug prices, which is why the drug companies can extort people who need life-preserving medications.
Engorged On Unborn Gore
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Any country that is essentially a corrupt oil company with a standing army will watch all of its industries follow suit.
Cappy_Smurf
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I'd be fine with the system the way it is, as long as nobody was profiting off of these kids. Take the money made off of athletics and put it into tuitions to minimize education costs for everyone.
As for paying college kids the same way you do pros, I don't think it's nearly that simple. There is a ton of money put into infrastructure that the kids could never replicate on their own. Somebody has to provide them with a situation to become household names, to where their name on a jersey is worth money. Kind of like NBA players threatening to start their own league. There's a reason why it will never happen, and even if it did, you'd eventually have very similar problems, as some people would take advantage and manipulate the system in their favor.
As for paying college kids the same way you do pros, I don't think it's nearly that simple. There is a ton of money put into infrastructure that the kids could never replicate on their own. Somebody has to provide them with a situation to become household names, to where their name on a jersey is worth money. Kind of like NBA players threatening to start their own league. There's a reason why it will never happen, and even if it did, you'd eventually have very similar problems, as some people would take advantage and manipulate the system in their favor.
Eventually it will go the way of soccer academies in Europe. College sports will be dead unless you want to watch club teams who are actual amateurs.
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mellow
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I dont like that Kyle Whittingham and Chris Hill are two of the highest paid state employees. I also have zero sympathy for the "plight" of the student athlete. If i ran the world tomorrow i would force the athletic departments to become publicly traded companies, they could buy or rent facilities from the schools,and buy naming rights to use the university name. Turn it into a money generator for the schools. As a company each team could negotiate a payment to the players.
They are getting degree for free in the process. Not exactly unfair.
Cappy_Smurf
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No it isn't. You could certainly call it socialism, but it's an entirely different situation than it is now. There are other problems with trying to make college into another pro league as well. I could see paying the kids some money, but I'd rather see the majority of money made in college sports spread around among the students.
Anybody who still wants to bitch can go play in China or start their own league.
Pls stfu.
W/E job you do how would you feel if you only got paid the equivalent of a state school education cost? That is assuming the job you do pays well over that, which is the value plenty of these athletes bring in.
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Are you talking about top 10% who bring in millions or the rest/lower divisions who, I am guessing, rather subsidised. I can hardly imagine rowing or track and field teams from division 2 bringing in thousand dollars from spectators but they are getting schooled.
I have no problems at all with this kind of setup. It doesn't mean the US higher education system isn't ****ed up though.
DutchJazzer
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I am on the players side in all this. the ncaa is making lots and lots and lots and lots of moeny, and all thes epalyers get is a few years of a worthless crappy government education!
so what if they get financially rewarded for their talen and or hard work!
the ncaa is immoral
so what if they get financially rewarded for their talen and or hard work!
the ncaa is immoral
DutchJazzer
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noo, when someone uses a corrupt system on you, you breaking the rules of that corrupt system is not corrupt
Darkwing Duck
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The problem is that the "revenue generating" sports disincentivize the student part of the equation. They are paid based on how their student-athletes perform on the field/court, not how they perform in the classroom. The NCAA earns money based on the product, not the student-athletes report card. Thus the student-athletes are nudged and, in some ways, pushed toward classes and education that are easy and require less attention, thus opening up their "free" time not dedicated to the sport for the sport. The promise is of an education, but when you actually try to take advantage of it.
Im talking about paying student athletes what they are worth. Are you being daft? It's like anything else in the world.
Are you bringing value? Yes, then you should be compensated for that value.
This is not rocket science for people to figure out.
That costs the school nothing (except for textbooks and housing if they include it).
Just because it isn't literal slavery doesn't mean it's not cut-and-dry exploitation. It's anti-trust, but it's tradition and you bet the NCAA and these programs have the ears of legislators and judges.
The relationship between academia and sports is screwed up and only benefits the wealthy (most of whom are generationally wealthy).
Either pay these kids in profitable programs a living wage, or the relationship needs to be dissolved. These schools skim profits off the top and/or reinvest in the major sports programs and use the student body's tuition (and often tax revenue) to do it. The relationship is both anti-academic and - for the millionth time - exploitative of the athlete. Totally screwed up.
TLDR; I like my academia academic and workers to be paid. College sports violate both principles.
Either pay these kids in profitable programs a living wage, or the relationship needs to be dissolved. These schools skim profits off the top and/or reinvest in the major sports programs and use the student body's tuition (and often tax revenue) to do it. The relationship is both anti-academic and - for the millionth time - exploitative of the athlete. Totally screwed up.
TLDR; I like my academia academic and workers to be paid. College sports violate both principles.