Game Thread Feb 25, 2023 07:00PM MT: Jazz vs. Spurs

[KqWIN]

So Dunn can play? Shocker. It’s just too bad that a guy like him wasn’t just hanging around last year when our team was composed of the worst perimeter defenders in league history.

The Jazz thought Miye Oni was the solution to historically bad perimeter defense and Rudy Gay the next year. Literally wasted Mitchell-Gobert due to inaction.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

So Dunn can play? Shocker. It’s just too bad that a guy like him wasn’t just hanging around last year when our team was composed of the worst perimeter defenders in league history.

Also… lol… like you knew better than professionals who are paid money to do a job… lol.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

The Jazz thought Miye Oni was the solution to historically bad perimeter defense and Rudy Gay the next year. Literally wasted Mitchell-Gobert due to inaction.

Put a lot of development time into guys like Oni and Forrest when they should have been out hunting for something better. But when you put yourself in the tax to overpay backup centers it gets pretty pricey to churn the roster. The last few years of DLs tenure were sloppy AF.

 

[sip]

Also… lol… like you knew better than professionals who are paid money to do a job… lol.

You act like these paid professionals aren't total morons all the time.

 

[KqWIN]

Put a lot of development time into guys like Oni and Forrest when they should have been out hunting for something better. But when you put yourself in the tax to overpay backup centers it gets pretty pricey to churn the roster. The last few years of DLs tenure were sloppy AF.

If I’m being honest, I don’t even think Oni and Forrest were that bad for what they were. Both had moments where they filled into the rotation and things went smoothly, or as smoothly as you could expect by subbing in an undrafted/super late second rounder. I don’t necessarily disagree that we could have used those roster spots/development time on others….but the perimeter defense problem was never a 14/15/16th man problem. Maybe you find Caruso and he becomes part of your main rotation, but the Jazz should have invested more into the blatant issues than end of roster spots. Their starting/final lineups were getting their **** kicked in and they needed a real change in their main lineups.

 

[vegas]

Dunn is having a calming effect. Been great in the first 2 games. I did notice he is a bit hesitant on his threes. Made one that was smooth and confident. Bricked one that you could see he was hesitant, then passed upnone he knew he should have taken, but didnt have the confidence. Something to keep an eye on.

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[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

Lauri needs to find his outside shot before it goes inside his head too much. i have noticed hesitation few times to launch it and his shot form seems stiffer now after weeks of cold stretch.

When did he hesitate?? You’re off your meds again I see.

He's still young too. Give me some more Dunn.

Damn, when I read that I thought what is that idiot thinking. Lol I thought for sure he was in his early to mid 30’s. Eg on my idiot face. Didn’t realize he was that young.

If he works on his shot creation he could be our Allan Houston. He kinda has his shooting form.

He reminds me a bit of the same style as Klay. Has potential to be very elite shooter.

we fleeced them

No we didn’t, we have more class tan that we bent them over!!

Lauri had just 7 points at halftime and it looked like he was on his way to having one of his worst games in a Jazz uniform...he ended up with 27 points on just 17 shots, including 14 points in the 4th quarter. He's a special player.

DM’s first few years he used to do that all the time and Markkanen has been doing this a bit. Earlier in the year he was getting to fast starts then would score 6 points in the second half. I remember I criticized him for it. He’s been money the last month in the second half. I could care less the start he has but as an allstar you need to finish strong and he has been.

 

[infection]

Also… lol… like you knew better than professionals who are paid money to do a job… lol.

If a tree falls in the forest and nobody is there, did it make a sound? This is that example. We could say he never would have been good then because we didn’t have him. But now he’s good because we can actually see it and we had the genius to bring him in.

 

[Elizah Huge]

If a tree falls in the forest and nobody is there, did it make a sound? This is that example. We could say he never would have been good then because we didn’t have him. But now he’s good because we can actually see it and we had the genius to bring him in.

My favorite was when we figured out we just barely went into the tax because of some bad math and people were saying there was no way professionals would do that lol.

 

[infection]

My favorite was when we figured out we just barely went into the tax because of some bad math and people were saying there was no way professionals would do that lol.

They always intended to go barely into the tax.

 

[Hearsky]

Are there any other players drafted by the Wolves and traded to the Bulls we can get our hands on?

 

[hzg511]

Are there any other players drafted by the Wolves and traded to the Bulls we can get our hands on?

Zach lavine?
The whole butler trade packet.

 

[Nate505]

A tale of two halves for the tankers here. But fortunately it ends in agony for them.

 

[Mr. T]

Zach lavine?
The whole butler trade packet.

Oof, lets keep clear of Lavine!

 

[Tremendous Upside]

Random thoughts...

- Juan Toscano-Anderson is terrible. The guy literally brings nothing to the table. He sometimes looked decent at GS when playing with Hall of Famers who got all the defensive attention, but now he's almost 30 and his utter lack of ball skills or shooting is getting exposed. Just get this dude TF out of here, he's a waste of space.

- That brings to mind that I love our current "youth movement". Receiving rotation minutes are:

Gay (36)
Clarkson (30)
Olynyk (32 in April)
Dunn (29 in a few weeks)
Toscano-Anderson (30 in April)
Fontecchio (27)

None of these guys are future pieces. With the occasional exception of Clarkson, none of them are helping us win now either. And since we seemingly can't/won't tank... what are we doing? It's absolutely hilarious to me that we actually traded away youth and brought in some old dudes who are fighting for their last NBA contracts in the margins of the League. Man... Ainge really needs to work his magic in the draft this time. I didn't like Lauri's body language when he was watching the Dunn/THT dribbling exchibition. This is the type of stuff that will plant the seeds of "Do I see myself playing with dudes like this 3 years from now?" in his head.

- Everyone loves Kessler's rim protection (and they should), but right now he has a very definite Achilles heel on defense - bigs who can shoot from the perimeter. Teams are trying to make him choose between sitting in the hole and contesting on the perimeter, and so far he's choosing the former like clockwork. That's something Walker needs to get better at - there's SO many centers who can make open 3's these days. As fun as it is to watch Kessler send layups to the 10th row, you just can't keep giving up free 3pt shots in this league.

- Dunn has some balls. Guy comes in on a 10 day deal and immediately acts like he owns the team. Would love to know what the rest of the players think about his act behind closed doors. Never seen a dude who's a marginal NBA player come in and call his own number this much.

 

[Mikle12]

Random thoughts...

- Juan Toscano-Anderson is terrible. The guy literally brings nothing to the table. He sometimes looked decent at GS when playing with Hall of Famers who got all the defensive attention, but now he's almost 30 and his utter lack of ball skills or shooting is getting exposed. Just get this dude TF out of here, he's a waste of space.

- That brings to mind that I love our current "youth movement". Receiving rotation minutes are:

Gay (36)
Clarkson (30)
Olynyk (32 in April)
Dunn (29 in a few weeks)
Toscano-Anderson (30 in April)
Fontecchio (27)

None of these guys are future pieces. With the occasional exception of Clarkson, none of them are helping us win now either. And since we seemingly can't/won't tank... what are we doing? It's absolutely hilarious to me that we actually traded away youth and brought in some old dudes who are fighting for their last NBA contracts in the margins of the League. Man... Ainge really needs to work his magic in the draft this time. I didn't like Lauri's body language when he was watching the Dunn/THT dribbling exchibition. This is the type of stuff that will plant the seeds of "Do I see myself playing with dudes like this 3 years from now?" in his head.

- Everyone loves Kessler's rim protection (and they should), but right now he has a very definite Achilles heel on defense - bigs who can shoot from the perimeter. Teams are trying to make him choose between sitting in the hole and contesting on the perimeter, and so far he's choosing the former like clockwork. That's something Walker needs to get better at - there's SO many centers who can make open 3's these days. As fun as it is to watch Kessler send layups to the 10th row, you just can't keep giving up free 3pt shots in this league.

- Dunn has some balls. Guy comes in on a 10 day deal and immediately acts like he owns the team. Would love to know what the rest of the players think about his act behind closed doors. Never seen a dude who's a marginal NBA player come in and call his own number this much.

29 is not old in the nba JTA on the other hand should be waived when sexton comes back has he even scored a single point ?

 

[Agent#00]

I like the 2nd half execution and defense. Seems like we play abit faster with tht or Dunn at PG instead of Conley. Mike is great but sometimes too deliberate in setting up plays to the point that it's easy to read and react.

I like the top of the key play when ko holds the ball while lauri and jc screens for each other. One pops out while the other cuts to he rim. Lauri was fouled on that dunk. It confuses the defense. They did it twice

 

[Korisfani]

- Dunn has some balls. Guy comes in on a 10 day deal and immediately acts like he owns the team. Would love to know what the rest of the players think about his act behind closed doors. Never seen a dude who's a marginal NBA player come in and call his own number this much.

Bet they love him. Coming in when the team is struggling and being the main cog in righting the ship and onto an eventual win. Players like winning and Dunn was key in that win.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Are there any other players drafted by the Wolves and traded to the Bulls we can get our hands on?

Not gonna lie… I’ve had the same thought… what other Boylen Bulls are available

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

We need to sign Coby White this offseason… go get chandler Hutchison right now… gonna win the title next year.