FG/3P% contract incentives for Hayward?

[Twin Towers]

I will keep this simple.

Do you think the Jazz should offer contract incentives based on his FG & 3P percentages?

Something like 45% and 50% from the field. depending on the level will depend on how much he gets paid each year.
37% and 40% from the 3?

or would this just offend him?

 

[SP_Eagle]

I guess it's just like KPI's, not the worst idea IMO but yeah he'd probably be offended

 

[richgates]

I also think creating incentives like that, you make it easy for a player to alter their playing style in such a way that ultimately hurts the team. I'd much rather have Hayward playing smart, aggressive basketball, rather than pass on open shots just because it might hurt his incentive-laden contract. I imagine there would have to be better incentives.

 

[sgjazzfan]

I don't think you can do this in the NBA. Contracts are fully guaranteed and there aren't any bonus's like in the NFL.

 

[Twin Towers]

I also think creating incentives like that, you make it easy for a player to alter their playing style in such a way that ultimately hurts the team. I'd much rather have Hayward playing smart, aggressive basketball, rather than pass on open shots just because it might hurt his incentive-laden contract. I imagine there would have to be better incentives.

Ya I am hoping he just takes smarter shots after we have an actual offensive system next year. And have more scoring around him. With Burks probably starting and Kanter.
I also just worry after watching Hayward jack up a lot of fade aways and missing wide open outside shots a lot.

 

[Twin Towers]

I don't think you can do this in the NBA. Contracts are fully guaranteed and there aren't any bonus's like in the NFL.

https://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/...its-7-million-bonus-making-all-nba-third-team

It allows for a player on a maximum contract to get a significant raise if he wins MVP, gets voted to start in two All-Star games or is named to two All-NBA teams before the max contract kicks in. George's new contract begins this summer.

It might only be these options. Might not be possible to add anything different. I do know that certain players in the past have had contract incentives for their weight.

 

[Twin Towers]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1170804-seven-most-ridiculous-contract-clauses-in-nba-history

Matt Bonner had a shooting percentage type clause.

Glenn Davis had a weight clause.

 

[sgjazzfan]

https://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/...its-7-million-bonus-making-all-nba-third-team



It might only be these options. Might not be possible to add anything different. I do know that certain players in the past have had contract incentives for their weight.

That only allows for you to sign them to more when their rookie contract ends. It doesn't change their current contract, as far as I understand. They have to reach those incentives before the contract ends. The contract isn't even set until the salary cap comes out, because its a max deal, which is a percentage of the cap.

 

[Twin Towers]

Contract incentives have existed for awhile. Its nothing new.

 

[sgjazzfan]

Contract incentives have existed for awhile. Its nothing new.

So, are the reported Salaries the max salaries, if all incentives are met, or are they the minimum salaries, but could be more.

 

[Twin Towers]

So, are the reported Salaries the max salaries, if all incentives are met, or are they the minimum salaries, but could be more.

Not sure. Depends on the information they get from the team. I would guess that the contract reported is the guaranteed money. And you get more if you reach those goals.

 

[Twin Towers]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...tract-extension-milwaukee-four-years/2678563/

Larry Sanders contract. I didn't find out what the incentives were though.

 

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This idea, it is dumb

 

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

I will keep this simple.

Do you think the Jazz should offer contract incentives based on his FG & 3P percentages?

Something like 45% and 50% from the field. depending on the level will depend on how much he gets paid each year.
37% and 40% from the 3?

or would this just offend him?

That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

Remember how Korver stoped playing a sertain way because he was afraid he wouldn't get the 3pt record, and wouldn't it offend you? I would want my team to do what's good for the team, not himself and his pockets. Who the handle that kind of pressure to perform night in night out for 82 games season after season.

Also not to mention your singling out Hayward from the rest of the team. That's not fair to Hayward.

 

[Twin Towers]

That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

Remember how Korver stoped playing a sertain way because he was afraid he wouldn't get the 3pt record, and wouldn't it offend you? I would want my team to do what's good for the team, not himself and his pockets. Who the handle that kind of pressure to perform night in night out for 82 games season after season.

Also not to mention your singling out Hayward from the rest of the team. That's not fair to Hayward.

Well Hayward's shot selection and consistency was really bad last year.

Burks has improved each year and is on his rookie contract. Trey is on his rookie contract. Favors is a big man and his shot selection isn't bad.
Kanter shot 49%.
We should be calling him out. He should be called out for his shooting.

 

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

Just want to clear things up.

Say the jazz sign Hayward to a 4 year 48 million$ contract, but he has a bad shooting year. Are you suggesting they bump it down to say 44 million because he shot 43% instead of 45%?

 

[Twin Towers]

Just want to clear things up.

Say the jazz sign Hayward to a 4 year 48 million$ contract, but he has a bad shooting year. Are you suggesting they bump it down to say 44 million because he shot 43% instead of 45%?

No there is no way he would accept that. That wouldn't be a incentive. Increase in pay if he hits above 45% from the field(example) would be the ultimate goal. Giving him a bonus to his contract.

 

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

Well Hayward's shot selection and consistency was really bad last year.

Burks has improved each year and is on his rookie contract. Trey is on his rookie contract. Favors is a big man and his shot selection isn't bad.
Kanter shot 49%.
We should be calling him out. He should be called out for his shooting.

What first option doesn't take bad shots once in a while. The problem with your screwed up thinking is that Hayward isn't a #1 option, and he was used incorrectly. His shot selection was questionable at times because he was trying to be what he wasn't take the responsibility and he shoots less and his shot selection improves.

 

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

No there is no way he would accept that. That wouldn't be a incentive. Increase in pay if he hits above 45% from the field(example) would be the ultimate goal. Giving him a bonus to his contract.

I'm fine with that. You made it sound like it could go down.

 

[Twin Towers]

In reality it does go down. Its the same either way.

He knows from the start what he gets guaranteed. And what he can possibly get.

He also has been very inconsistent his whole career going back to Butler. It literally is like an every other year with his shot.

3 point shot
08-09 - 44% (Butler)
09-10 - 29% (Butler)
10-11- 47%
11-12 - 34.6%
12-13 - 41%
13-14 - 30%

He has the ability. His release is fine. Its mental with maybe his balance or something. But it has become ridiculous. Wide open 3 point shots has nothing to do with how he was used.