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BYU fans in unexpected places

While I was on vacation last week, I had an experience that while small, is a good example of why BYU likes the situation it is in.

My family and I had just stopped in Independence, Missouri, the place I lived until I was 13. We were getting gas at a local convenience store when I was approached by someone wearing a BYU t-shirt. I can tell you from experience that seeing BYU gear outside of an LDS Church setting in Missouri is not a common occurrence. This gentleman had approached me because he saw my BYU hat and the Cougar Sports Saturday shirt I was wearing. He was obviously just as surprised to see me as I was to see him. What followed next was something that I'm sure would bring a smile to both Tom Holmoe and Bronco's faces.

After asking me if I worked for KSL, and finding out what I did, he told me that he had watched BYU's Media Day on BYUtv. He told me how excited he was to have the access and to be able to catch up on BYU football during the offseason. He told me that even though he had always been a BYU fan, this past season was one of his favorites because he had been able to see all the football and basketball games on ESPN and BYUtv.

While that was just one isolated experience, I walked away from that encounter with a better understanding of why it's so important for BYU to protect its broadcast rights. In Utah, we take for granted how easily accessible Cougar sports are to us. Fans in local markets will always have ways to watch their team; but what about the fans who don't live along the Wasatch Front?

BYU's partnership with ESPN, and its ability to utilize BYUtv for live coverage and rebroadcasts, is more than just about having a place to televise games. It's not about money; it's about getting the product out to those who want it. BYU is not just a local or regional team. I am always amazed when I hear Greg Wrubell and Marc Lyons take a phone call or read an email from someone on the other side of the globe on KSL Newsradio's BYU Football postgame show. There are Cougar fans all over the world.

During our seven-day vacation, we traveled through Wyoming, Nebraska, Missouri, Kansas and Colorado. I am pleased to report that I saw some BYU gear in every state we went through. That is why BYU is holding tightly to its television rights. The university knows how important it is to make BYU sports available to everyone that wants it. To settle for anything less would be shortchanging a fan base that can't get enough.
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Of all the things in this world, proudly sporting my Coug gear is one that I love most. I can't wait to wreck the sock-stroking puds up north.
 
Everyone should adopt the cougs .. why would anyone pull for the Utes? And I have no history in the rivalry.

Only serious responses need apply.
 
PKM said:
Everyone should adopt the cougs .. why would anyone pull for the Utes? And I have no history in the rivalry.

Only serious responses need apply.
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Why would they? Any excuse to get wasted and be a belligerent tool is all most "fans" need.
 
HotRodHundley'sBooze said:
As crazy and hard to believe as this is, I had no idea he posted on that board. Just one big huge coincidence, I swear. I have a name related to the team on that board, so you aren't going to guess it. Sorry P.
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I believe you .. but massive coincidence ..

No, I'm not going to guess ..
 
I just visited both schools yesterday, talking with their licensing divisions. Met great people at both schools (I actually scored a free hat from one of them).
 
Surely said:
I just visited both schools yesterday, talking with their licensing divisions. Met great people at both schools (I actually scored a free hat from one of them).
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One is worth $ .. the other they just give away. Which was it?
 
Man, some people sure do love their kool-aid.

By all means, BYU should stop any further attempts trying to get into a big conference because a guy in Missouri watched BYU media day on BYUtv. I'm also sure that out of state football recruits (especially non-LDS ones) are just tripping over themselves to watch re-runs of BYU football games during the season. If BYU and it's fans are seriously happy with what they have now, in all honesty they should stick with it. However, don't be blind to the fact that BYUtv is pretty much reaching fans that are already BYU diehards/church memebers to begin with. How's that opening new doors? How is it reaching out to a recruiting base that BYU wouldn't have without BYUtv?

More importantly, how in the world would joining the likes of the Big 12 hurt BYU's exposure? Are you honestly telling me that you wouldn't give up the right to show re-runs of your football games on a school owned cable channel if it meant joining the Big 12?! You want to reach people you've never reached before? You want to make yourself known to recruits who normally wouldn't consider BYU? Then you should be rooting for your school to drop the BYUtv demands if that is indeed what is holding them up from a Big 12 invite.

And Trout, while I'm sure you know quite a bit about wrecking puds, I wouldn't be too eager to see that game played if I were you. I'm very much looking forward to that game. Aside from Northern Colorado, I think it's Utah's best shot at a sure win. Utah is going to pack 8 in the box and force Riley Halfshirt Nelson to go down field (news flash: that's something he can't do very well unless he's bouncing it off Utah State defenders). Utah also has the athletes on defense to deal with Riley's happy legs as well as whatever it is BYU considers to be a run game. Prediction: Utah wins by at least 2 scores, doesn't renew with BYU for 2013 and Y fans are left to sit in their own stool while crying about how Utah is afraid to face them even though after a victory this year Utah will have won 4 our of the last 5 and 8 out of the last 11.

But fret not Trout and other BYU faithful, even if the series with Utah ends, you should have no problem watching re-runs of past BYU triumphs over Utah on BYUtv.
 
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jazzman12 said:
More importantly, how in the world would joining the likes of the Big 12 hurt BYU's exposure? Are you honestly telling me that you wouldn't give up the right to show re-runs of your football games on a school owned cable channel if it meant joining the Big 12?! You want to reach people you've never reached before? You want to make yourself known to recruits who normally wouldn't consider BYU? Then you should be rooting for your school to drop the BYUtv demands if that is indeed what is holding them up from a Big 12 invite.
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Let me preface my comments by saying that I am a member of the LDS church, I grew up as a BYU sports fan, and I have bachelor's and masters degrees from the University of Utah. When BYU talks about exposure, they aren't just talking about exposure for their sports teams. They're talking about exposure for their entire university. You question the thought that joining the Big 12 could hurt BYU's exposure. In a sense you're right. Joining the Big 12 or another big conference would give a lot more exposure to the sports programs, but not necessarily the whole university. I never pay attention to the commercials touting the universities of the schools playing.

When conferences and schools create networks, they're usually trying to score big bucks. BYUtv is primarily about exposure. I've read that contrary to most networks, BYUtv doesn't charge television providers to carry their channel. That aside, providers want other reasons to carry BYUtv. They want to know that their customers will watch it. What better way to get a potential audience than by showing re-runs of football and basketball games? TV providers know BYU has a good national following and so they agree to carry BYUtv. Then on the other hand, BYU gets a nice deal with ESPN so they're able to get some money (maybe not as much as they could get if they were in a big conference) and a lot exposure. If BYU were in the Big 12 and couldn't show re-broadcasts of sporting events on BYUtv, the university could be hurt in the exposure department. Since BYU shows a lot of other things besides sports on BYUtv, you could argue that BYU should join a big conference to at least see how BYUtv is affected, but for now BYU is working on getting BYUtv to everyone, and maybe in the future they will decide to become part of a conference again. But I don't think you can fault them for doing what they think is best for the university.
 
PKM said:
Everyone should adopt the cougs .. why would anyone pull for the Utes? And I have no history in the rivalry.

Only serious responses need apply.
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If you are uneducated, poor, work laying concrete, hate school or learning, drink Monster like its water, drink cheap ****ty beer, order your steak well done, hate mormons, or are just obnoxious .... you are most likely a Ute fan.
 
nightmare3983 said:
Let me preface my comments by saying that I am a member of the LDS church, I grew up as a BYU sports fan, and I have bachelor's and masters degrees from the University of Utah. When BYU talks about exposure, they aren't just talking about exposure for their sports teams. They're talking about exposure for their entire university. You question the thought that joining the Big 12 could hurt BYU's exposure. In a sense you're right. Joining the Big 12 or another big conference would give a lot more exposure to the sports programs, but not necessarily the whole university. I never pay attention to the commercials touting the universities of the schools playing.

When conferences and schools create networks, they're usually trying to score big bucks. BYUtv is primarily about exposure. I've read that contrary to most networks, BYUtv doesn't charge television providers to carry their channel. That aside, providers want other reasons to carry BYUtv. They want to know that their customers will watch it. What better way to get a potential audience than by showing re-runs of football and basketball games? TV providers know BYU has a good national following and so they agree to carry BYUtv. Then on the other hand, BYU gets a nice deal with ESPN so they're able to get some money (maybe not as much as they could get if they were in a big conference) and a lot exposure. If BYU were in the Big 12 and couldn't show re-broadcasts of sporting events on BYUtv, the university could be hurt in the exposure department. Since BYU shows a lot of other things besides sports on BYUtv, you could argue that BYU should join a big conference to at least see how BYUtv is affected, but for now BYU is working on getting BYUtv to everyone, and maybe in the future they will decide to become part of a conference again. But I don't think you can fault them for doing what they think is best for the university.
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Thats actually a great reply. I have no doubt that BYU sports are a great thing for BYUtv. However, I still think that BYUtv is horrible for BYU football as long as its the sticking point for them joining a major conference. It seems most BYU fans are ok with that and I guess as long as you're appeasing the majority of your fanbase, then everything is ok.
 
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