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Interesting article. Is it the streaming effect? Is it the lack of the major teams? I know virtually none of the Lakers fans I know here have even watched a game in the finals and they overwhelmingly have the attitude that any finals without the Lakers has a huge asterisk since the best team isn't in it. The assholes. Anyway, here is the article. Thoughts?

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Don't Listen to the Media, the NBA Finals Tanked Again

NBA media got angry last year when a few writers covered the disastrous ratings for the NBA Finals. They claimed you couldn't compare an out-of-season event during a global pandemi
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MT Steve said:
Well when the NBA spends all season marketing the Lakers, Clippers, and Nets, and pretending nobody else exists, this is sort of what happens.
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Somehow I don’t think they’d see it that way. “We need to get these teams back in the finals” is what they see.

“You only get one shot, do not miss your chance to blow. This opportunity comes once in a lifetime.”

Yep. That was our shot. Thanks, DL and Quin. Thanks.
 
They’re up from last season, but yes they’re likely down overall. NBA ratings haven’t been great for a bit now. Also, Outkick is a very slanted source itself. Politics infused into the league doesn’t exactly help it, neither does its media, neither does the fact that the NBA and its media partners only sale 5 of their 30 products on the regular. It’s really no surprise the NBA can’t and won’t ever match the NFL in popularity. The highest rated finals game ever is still the Bulls/Jazz game 6……That was prior the year 2000. The NBAs ratings haven’t been truly gaining in 21 years with lots of people added to the earth. The NBA needs to do a far better job at selling its product.
 
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Not surprising they are down. Casual fans are into superstars. Chris Paul is really the only one that fits the bill. For whatever reason the Greek Freak has not resonated with casuals. Booker probably will, but until this year he was on terrible teams every year. It will take him more time to really build a national brand.
 
oneye said:
They’re up from last season, but yes they’re likely down overall. NBA ratings haven’t been great for a bit now. Also, Outkick is a very slanted source itself. Politics infused into the league doesn’t exactly help it, neither does its media, neither does the fact that the NBA and its media partners only sale 5 of their 30 products on the regular. It’s really no surprise the NBA can’t and won’t ever match the NFL in popularity. The highest rated finals game ever is still the Bulls/Jazz game 6……That was prior the year 2000. The NBAs ratings haven’t been truly gaining in 21 years with lots of people added to the earth. The NBA needs to do a far better job at selling its product.
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You didn't read the article. Ratings down 35% from 2019, 50% from 2018. Up slightly over last year, the worst the NBA has really ever seen.

All of this definitely feeds the conspiracy that the NBA tries to use officiating to give the more popular teams an unfair advantage as bad ratings could lead to worse tv contacts in the future and far less revenue for the league.
 
LogGrad98 said:
You didn't read the article. Ratings down 35% from 2019, 50% from 2018. Up slightly over last year, the worst the NBA has really ever seen.

All of this definitely feeds the conspiracy that the NBA tries to use officiating to give the more popular teams an unfair advantage as bad ratings could lead to worse tv contacts in the future and far less revenue for the league.
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I don’t try to read outkick, who is a platform for the likes of people like Clay Travis. I’ve seen the information elsewhere so no, I didn’t click on this specific article. PS, Lebron in Cleveland had far better ratings. Start making more of your teams and players popular. The NFL has no issue doing it. The TV contract negotiations are well underway for the next deal, it’ll be interesting to see how it shakes out, they were asking for like triple the revenue from the story I saw(which would be a devastating cap spike btw). Outkick hates the NBA due to its political slant, and tbh, it is part of the reason the NBA isn’t as popular as it could be, but yes, I’ll keep my click on Outlook articles, I’ve seen the rating stats.
 
The Athletic has a whole article about it as well, and it is very much yikes. Like I said the NBA asked for like triple from their last TV deal from what was reported a month or so ago, good luck with that lol. There’s a multitude of reasons for it, but the NBA has done nothing right to make the league more popular. They do everything to make it less popular and less sustainably popular. Currently the league made $24 billion on a 9 year deal, they’re asking for $75 billion. If the league gets near that, it’ll be interesting to see how they smooth that revenue spike in, in a way that doesn’t upset the balance of competitiveness in the league. (BTW that revenue spike would happen at a pretty inopportune time for the Jazz and their star players contract if they don’t stop some huge conglomerate of super teams when that spike hits the league).

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Actually, someone better with cap/salary years stuff than me. I’m not sure, if Mitchell becomes super max eligible and can signs new super max contract after the 2023-24 season, what season would his super-max % be based on? If that revenue spike is projected to hit, and his super max is based off like the 2025-26 season or 2026-27 season, his super max would be an ungodly number at 35% of that cap. If it’s based of 2025-27 he’d be looking at a contract worth 5 years like $600+ million with that cap spike.
 
oneye said:
Actually, someone better with cap/salary years stuff than me. I’m not sure, if Mitchell becomes super max eligible and can signs new super max contract after the 2023-24 season, what season would his super-max % be based on? If that revenue spike is projected to hit, and his super max is based off like the 2025-26 season or 2026-27 season, his super max would be an ungodly number at 35% of that cap. If it’s based of 2025-27 he’d be looking at a contract worth 5 years like $600+ million with that cap spike.
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Rudy's contract is set to pay him more than $40 million per season his last 3 seasons. He will be over 31 for all of them.

If we are willing to pay that, we will be willing to pay Don around that or more


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LoPo said:
Rudy's contract is set to pay him more than $40 million per season his last 3 seasons. He will be over 31 for all of them.

If we are willing to pay that, we will be willing to pay Don around that or more


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If the cap spike is that big, and Donovan’s super max % is based off the 2026-27 season, you’d be paying him more around the lines of $120 million a year. His current contract runs through 2025-26(the player option year) The new TV deal would start in 2026-27, which is when Mitchels super max would start if he signed the extension in a couple years. I believe his super max would be based off the new TV deal and an absolutely enormous contract. But I’m not a cap expert, so I’m not 100% on that. The current CBA will expire after the 2023-24 season and the new one will begin 2025-26, a lot will be dependent on what the league does with the super max exactly in the CBA which will expire/be renewed a year before the TV money spike hits.
 
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oneye said:
Actually, someone better with cap/salary years stuff than me. I’m not sure, if Mitchell becomes super max eligible and can signs new super max contract after the 2023-24 season, what season would his super-max % be based on? If that revenue spike is projected to hit, and his super max is based off like the 2025-26 season or 2026-27 season, his super max would be an ungodly number at 35% of that cap. If it’s based of 2025-27 he’d be looking at a contract worth 5 years like $600+ million with that cap spike.
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Donovan isn’t signing a super max. Don is demanding out, because he’s a douchebag and because he’s going to NYK to play for his buddy Dolan, remember? But if he signs a super max I’m looking forward to “he’s going to demand teh tradez!!1”
 
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Donovan isn’t signing a super max. Don is demanding out, because he’s a douchebag and because he’s going to NYK to play for his buddy Dolan, remember? But if he signs a super max I’m looking forward to “he’s going to demand teh tradez!!1”
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I agree, I’m just curious and it’s crazy how much the supermax would be for him and several others who will hit that cap spike at the exact right time. It would hit $100-$120 million per year with that kind of cap and revenue spike. On the other side of it, it could make it much easier to team up super stars as well during that spike.
 
The games haven’t been competitive. I think that’s the major reason. Same with last year. Didn’t the lakers sweep the heat?

If the bucks could actually compete then I think ratings would rise. I’m a big nba fan and watched all of the Clippers Suns games even though I was still in recovery from our series. but even I haven’t watched more than a half of this crap. Who wants to watch the Suns up by double digits and never actually threatened?
 
The Thriller said:
The games haven’t been competitive. I think that’s the major reason. Same with last year. Didn’t the lakers sweep the heat?

If the bucks could actually compete then I think ratings would rise. I’m a big nba fan and watched all of the Clippers Suns games even though I was still in recovery from our series. but even I haven’t watched more than a half of this crap. Who wants to watch the Suns up by double digits and never actually threatened?
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What?

Do people go back in time and tell themselves to not watch the game after it's a blowout?

The 2017 and 2018 Finals were uncompetitive as hell and had significantly better ratings.
 
MT Steve said:
What?

Do people go back in time and tell themselves to not watch the game after it's a blowout?

The 2017 and 2018 Finals were uncompetitive as hell and had significantly better ratings.
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Everyone knows Mil is a heavy underdog. And in today’s DVR world, I imagine a lot of people are waiting to see if this series will be competitive. If Mil comes back and ties this, I bet the ratings will skyrocket. But after seeing the Suns dismantle the best WC teams, I don’t think anyone wants to watch them tear apart a second or third rate EC team. Had the Nets been somewhat healthy, we’re seeing a completely different Finals. Meanwhile, I don’t know the same could be said about Phx. Phx looked like the best team in the west for the second half of the season. Had the season gone another week, they would’ve overtaken us.
 
My idiot brother was a die hard Jazz fan and basketball fan his whole life, he now refuses to watch because of how "woke" the NBA has become. I have a few co-workers who feel the same way. Hate to say it but I think that may be part of the reason for the ratings decline.
 
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