RandyForRubio
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I'm starting to like you. I must be an idiot.
Following 2016 potential draftees
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I'm starting to like you. I must be an idiot.
Not going to be something you want to admit to in a year.
-"only 220 lbs with average frame, gets pushed around inside"
-"struggles defending stronger bigs, below average rebounder"
-"avoids contact offensively"
-"only 8.2rb/40, pushed around inside"
-"doesn't show any fight"
-"game a little too fast for him on both ends at this stage"
-"below average court vision"
-"bites on ballfakes, too upright when defending the post"
-"tendency to take poor angles on closeouts. Foul prone"
-"struggles defending stronger bigs, below average rebounder"
-"avoids contact offensively"
-"only 8.2rb/40, pushed around inside"
-"doesn't show any fight"
-"game a little too fast for him on both ends at this stage"
-"below average court vision"
-"bites on ballfakes, too upright when defending the post"
-"tendency to take poor angles on closeouts. Foul prone"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWOjHoJ-U6A
RandyForRubio
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Of course the big difference being that Ridy and Kristaps were playing against grown men in a professional league. Skal was playing against his peers. Hard to compare Euro and Americsn prospects in that regard.
Still, my point stands - I'm not saying this is the case with Skal, but in a LOT of situations bigs lacking pure physical strength are mistaken to lack toughness and fight, when the problem is not with their will to compete but with their bodies not being ready for it.
Cherry picking some highlights. He doesn't work as hard as he should on defense. He doesn't go after every rebound like he should. It looks like he's taking it easy and coasting sometimes, but the potential is pretty obvious. Keep in mind, his family is back in Haiti and needs the money. His one priority has to be to go pro and get paid. The one thing he can't do is get injured and put things on hold. I'd be interested to know if this is coming out in interviews and if the Jazz are working him out. As it stands DX thinks he's gone before the #12 pick.
All I'm saying is that it's worth the risk at 12.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl8vvkc535A
All I'm saying is that it's worth the risk at 12.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl8vvkc535A
Still like this guy. This is from U19. He looks like he might still be growing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWhTCg6nQdw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWhTCg6nQdw
Miggs
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I love this mindset and **** it, I've sort of said it before and will ride or die with it. Korky is my guy. His baller skills and iq jump off the screen at me and with the size/length/athleticism/shooting he seems to have, I think dude is gonna be a major baller.
spycam1
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We have a guy with inside info who says it is largely a mental thing with Skal. Doesn't that scare you at all? I agree he has immense potential, but if Peeks tells me a UK player is a complete *****, then I'm not going to just brush that off, especially when his stats spell out *****, as well. I'm normally all for going for the home run pick, but Skal scares the hell out of me.
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stormkoopacv03
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I'd like the Jazz to do another home run pick like they did with Dante Exum, but this time it'd be with Thon Maker. He's got the makings of a very good player, I know it. We'll address are real needs via free agency. This draft, the Jazz need to address our future and that future as funny as is sounds is Thon Maker. I know he's got his weakness and flaws, so does every draft prospect.
Yes, it worries me a bit, but he(PKM) also says he has the talent to be a superstar in the league and also says he won't be disappointed if we drafted him. I'm not disputing that he's probably the most busty player we can take. All I'm saying is that whatever small chance there is he will figure his **** out is worth taking over the general mediocrity of this draft. You guys are acting as if the alternatives are some world beaters and that they aren't likely to bust. There aren't any top level prospects in this draft past top 3-4.
spycam1
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Fair enough. I guess I just don't find it as mediocre as you do, so I don't feel the need to take a chance on a guy like Skal.
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I think the Jazz are going to try to trade 12, a future first and TB3 to move up to 8. This is a good year to do it.
mellow
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For who?
This draft is weird, several players that are at 8 today could easily be at 12 next week.
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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Damn. Now I want him and Thon. Let's just field a team of bigs
If he was a senior, then I'd worry heavily over this. As a freshman he could grow out of it. I've seen it a bunch. Some kids just take longer developing the mental side of competing
When I think of Thon I'm reminded of the Greek freak. Thon is a fleet of foot 7footer can handle it and shoot it some and seems to have a strong attitude and very fluid for a 7footer. He could take a couple years to figure it out though.
Why? If anything u trade out or back. Talent seems fairly even from 8 to 12. I think the 12 pick could net us a nice vet to add depth.
Definitely find it hard to take Skal. Who is to say for instance that Sabonis does not have more upside. He is actually younger than Skal and continued to show more game last season. Dominated Poetl in their last game.
ncoloradojazz
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Skal, I don't see it
Potential wise THon Maker is a top 5 pick in the draft. He has major potential but not enough has been seen out of him. Would of benefited going to college, His game but his pockets are making the right choice. A man of mystery I nthis draft that is for sures.
Potential wise THon Maker is a top 5 pick in the draft. He has major potential but not enough has been seen out of him. Would of benefited going to college, His game but his pockets are making the right choice. A man of mystery I nthis draft that is for sures.
ncoloradojazz
Banned
My sources say Nuggets are really interested in Thon. Makes sense with 3 picks. Look for them to grab a guy that's ready to play now with that first pick and then swing for the fences with Thon , following it up with another player ready to go..
stormkoopacv03
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I think the Jazz might be really interested in Marquese Chriss but I hear he might move up into the top 5 right now. If the Jazz think he'd be available at 8 I think they'd try to move up.