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PG_AB said:
Timothe Luwawu's stats are better than expected thru 9 games, and I've been saying he's top-20 in this field of wings.. I might even have to go as far as saying he's a better prospect than Korkmaz if this continues..

15.2 PPG, 4.22 REB, 2.2 AST, 2.1 STL 43% from 3 on 6.44 attempts per 70% from FT 44% FG's, 3.5 TO's per though..

Recent interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gNfvihLhaA


Obviously a better prospect than Nigel Hayes IMO.
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Korkmaz plays for a top notch Euroleague team. Therefore he does not get the same PT as Luwawu. Mega Leks is pretty much all 17-21 year olds so basically the same as a college team. Also Korkmaz is two years younger than Luwawu so I think Korkmaz will still go before him.
 
NCJazz said:
Korkmaz plays for a top notch Euroleague team. Therefore he does not get the same PT as Luwawu. Mega Leks is pretty much all 17-21 year olds so basically the same as a college team. Also Korkmaz is two years younger than Luwawu so I think Korkmaz will still go before him.
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Yeah, I'm just saying if Tim shoots 3's like that, his value is going to skyrocket, because he's versatile and passes the eye test with flying colors, will workout well.

At this point there appears to be a dearth of Wings after Ingram, Simmons and Brown though.

None of the ones after that hold a candle next to Hezonja imo
 
Bender's coach got fired a few days ago.

@IAmDPick
Successor of David Blatt at Maccabi, Guy Goodes, has been fired. It's official.

This season, it’s been very noticeable just how much of a mess the squad has been in Euroleague play. Their rotations have been inconsistent, highlighted by Bender not getting minutes and steadily declining playing time for former Minnesota forward Trevor Mbakwe, who’s been the team’s best rebounder. They lack ball movement, averaging just 17 assists per game, and their offense has taken a nose-dive in several games, most notably their nine-point fourth quarter against Brose Baskets this past weekend.
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https://upsidemotor.com/2015/11/10/dragan-bender-maccabi-tel-aviv-coaching-fire-nba-draft-2016/
 
Ominous sign for Wisconsin... A loss to .. who?!?.. The Western Illinois Leathernecks ?!!?!

Nigel Hayes with a mediocre(at-best) stat line in 40 minutes of play - 4-13 from the field, 17 points,4 rebounds, 4 assists, 17 points.
 
Kennedy Meeks with a very strong start to the season...



What happened to NC State?! A 85-68 loss to William & Mary ?? They started out losing 29-9?!?! How the hell did they get out-rebounded?!? I'm genuinely puzzled about that, only 6 boards for Abu in 30 minutes?!
 
-Demetrius Jackson with a strong start to his Jr. campaign. 27-8-3 in 34 mins. Auguste with 15 and 14 in 24 minutes.

-Brannen Greene, often the forgotten man at Kansas with 18 off the bench in 15 minutes, 5/5 from 3. Devonte Graham with 8 assists, 3 steals and 13 points in 24 minutes, in a start.

-Villanova looked like they were in mid-season form early, 50-22 first half. Brunson with a solid stat line.

-Wade Baldwin with 14-4-4 for Vandy in 24 minutes in a beatdown of Austin Peay

-LSU's other freshman, Brandon Sampson and Antonio Blakeney combine for 40 on 6/11 3pt shooting.

-Poeltl straight beasting out of the gate.. 26, 11, 3 blocks, and 6/10 FT's

-Ivan Rabb with 14, 13 and 2 blocks in 16 minutes Jaylen Brown wasn;t quite that efficient, he scored15, played 15minutes, and took 15 shots..

-1/10 start for Allonzo Trier.

-18/7 in 23 minutes for Rico Gathers on 8/9 shooting. Taurean Prince with a career high 7 assists for Baylor

- 11 and 9 1 block and 1 ast for Thomas Bryant in his debut in 19 minutes for IU. Blackmon with 17

- If Isaiah Whitehead plays like this he'll jump up these mocks to a priority 2nd rd pick quickly. 18, 5boards, 8 asts , 2/3 from 3, 2 stls, 1 blk, in 33mins.
 
Chad Ford mock
So here it is -- our preseason Big Board for the 2016 NBA Draft.

1. Ben Simmons, F, Fr., LSU

The majority of scouts and GMs I speak with continue to believe Simmons is the player in this class who has the best chance to be transcendent. His size, athleticism and feel for the game are unique. He's going to fill up the box score.

"Ben's really good at just allowing himself to play whatever the game dictates," LSU head coach Johnny Jones told reporters after LSU's exhibition win over Southwest Baptist. "He doesn't force it. If he's got an opportunity to make plays, knock down shots, I think he takes advantage of it. He can get to the rim, play inside or out, and he's done a good job of making passes. His assist line could have been up even higher."

Scouts can't peg what position he plays, no one is exactly sure what sort of season he'll have at LSU, but virtually all of them agree that he has the best chance to become a star.

2. Skal Labissiere, C, Fr., Kentucky

Like his predecessors Anthony Davis and Karl-Anthony Towns, Labissiere is a super-skilled big man who can score from everywhere on the floor. Seven-footers that can do that efficiently are rare, which is why scouts see him as the top contender to Simmons for the No. 1 pick. His weakness, like Davis and Towns before him, is showing toughness in the paint as a freshman. And head coach John Calipari is already working on transforming him into a low-post monster.

"He's got a ways to go," Calipari told reporters. "We've got to really do a better job of teaching him how to fight for position (in the paint), how to hold his position and how to make sure you're catching balls, catching it close. It's all new to him. The reason you want to step away from the basket is because it's easier. You're not going to have to (play) body to body. 'I don't have to fight. Let me just shoot this fadeaway jumper.' Yeah, (Towns) said the same thing."

If Labissiere shows the same progress Towns did last season, he's going to keep the race for the No. 1 pick very competitive.

3. Dragan Bender, F, Croatia

With Kristaps Porzingis making the Lakers and Sixers second-guess passing on him in the draft and with Nikola Mirotic moving into the starting lineup in Chicago, big Euros who can play multiple positions and stretch the floor are back in fashion. And some scouts believe that the athletic, versatile Bender could end up being better than Porzingis and Mirotic.

4. Brandon Ingram, SF, Fr., Duke

While Simmons, Labissiere and, to a lesser extent, Bender dominate the discussion about who's No. 1, scouts haven't forgotten about Ingram. A lanky wing, he has the ability to be a scoring machine. Athletic small forwards who stand 6-foot-10 with 7-3 wingspans and can shoot and finish above the rim don't come around very often. If he shows more aggressiveness this year, he could sneak into the conversation for the top pick.

5. Jaylen Brown, SF, Fr., Cal

Brown looks the part of a pro player already. He might be the most athletic prospect with the best NBA body of anyone at the top (though Simmons probably begs to differ). His ability to do things like this has scouts drooling. He'll be playing out of position at Cal this year, much like Justise Winslow did last year at Duke. Brown and Winslow are very similar players, in their strengths and their weaknesses.

6. Jamal Murray, G, Fr., Kentucky

Murray lacks the elite size and athleticism of other players at the top, but his basketball IQ and productivity on the court might trump the rest of the field. Murray is a scoring and passing machine who can orchestrate an offense better than anyone in the draft (again, with the possible exception of Simmons). Scouts will fret a bit all year about his lack of explosiveness and defined position, but he's got a real chance to win player of the year as a freshman on the way to becoming a dominant starting guard in the NBA someday.

7. Henry Ellenson, F/C, Fr., Marquette

Ellenson fits the mold of what NBA scouts are looking for in a big. His combination of size, athleticism and ability to shoot with range make him highly coveted in an otherwise weak power forward pool. While he's not a great defender yet, he has the tools to improve.

8. Malik Pope, SF, So., San Diego State

Pope is the hardest player in the top 10 to peg at the moment. He has the skills and body of a top-five prospect. However, the consistent production wasn't there during his freshman season. If he dominates this year, we might have him too low. He brings just about everything Ingram does to the table. If he struggles to put up numbers on a nightly basis, we probably have him too high.

9. Cheick Diallo, PF, Fr., Kansas

Diallo is still waiting for the NCAA to clear him academically. He's been allowed to practice with the team, but is unable to play. If he does get cleared, he'll instantly make an impression with a motor that never stops, toughness and elite athletic abilities. His offense is still a work in progress, but it's developing. If he doesn't get cleared by the NCAA? I doubt it will do anything to his draft stock in either direction.

10. Malik Newman, G, Fr., Mississippi State

Newman is switching to full-time point guard at Mississippi State as a freshman. If he can handle those playmaking duties, I think he's a very similar to Brandon Knight as a prospect, but his transition could be a little rough. He's sat out the past few weeks with a turf toe injury, missing valuable time on the court.

11. Furkan Korkmaz, SG, Turkey

Korkmaz is playing a supporting role off the bench this season for Andoulu Efes, averaging about 13 minutes per game in Euroleague play and 21 per game in Turkish play. His stats don't really wow right now -- 3.7 PPG on 50 percent shooting in Euroleague play -- but his team is playing at the highest level of Europe, and that much playing time should be enough for scouts to accurately evaluate him.

12. Jakob Poeltl, C, So., Utah

Poeltl's massive weight gain over the summer was the big story for him; he put on 30 pounds, according to his coach. Scouts were concerned all last season that he lacked the strength to play his game in the post. That shouldn't be the case this season. If he dominates, he'll rise.

13. Kris Dunn, PG, Jr., Providence

Based on talent, Dunn should probably be another five or six spots higher on our board. He's a big, super-athletic point guard with a flair for the dramatic. But scouts are concerned about his age; he turns 22 in March. They also want to be assured that his jump shot has improved and hope to see him cut down on his turnovers before anointing him as a top-10 pick.

14. Damian Jones, C, Jr., Vanderbilt

Jones showed significant progress this summer. He was stronger, more aggressive and showed that he can be more than just a force defensively. If he can put together the same sorts of dominating performances in the SEC this season, he'll be a lock for the lottery.

15. Diamond Stone, C, Fr., Maryland

Stone's ability to score in the paint is a key selling point. He has some Jahlil Okafor in his game. He's savvy with his back to the basket and has the size to carve out space, but his lack of elite athleticism and defense give scouts some pause in ranking him higher.

16. Thomas Bryant, F/C, Fr., Indiana

Bryant's stock has risen this summer as more scouts are coming around to the idea that he could be this year's sleeper. With a 7-6 wingspan and a high motor on both ends of the floor, he has the potential to rise 10 spots on this board if he can consistently impact games at Indiana.

17. Stephen Zimmerman, C, Fr., UNLV

Zimmerman fits the mold of the skilled big man with athleticism and the ability to hurt you on the perimeter. His body could use some work, and scouts would like him to not rely on his jumper so much, but he should get lots of opportunities to shine at UNLV. He'll move up if he does most of his damage in the paint.

18. Demetrius Jackson, PG, Jr., Notre Dame

Jackson played in Jerian Grant's shadow last year. Now, this is his team. Everyone already knows about his toughness, defense and shooting ability. Scouts have questions about his abilities as a passer and ball handler, but if he can show off his floor-general skills this year, he has the rest of the physical tools and skills to be a very good NBA player.

19. Ivan Rabb, F/C, Fr., Cal

Rabb is a bit of a blank slate. The athleticism and rebounding ability are already there. His body reportedly is coming along. If he can add a low-post game to his arsenal along with a more consistent jump shot, he has top-10 talent. Most scouts, however, think it might be at least another year before he'll be able to put it all together.

20. Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk, SG, So., Kansas

This is Mykhailiuk's sophomore season, but he's still younger than most of the freshmen on this list. Scouts believe his game should be much further along this year. He's gotten stronger and has been working on polishing that jumper. But it's also possible that, like Zimmerman and Rabb, it might take another season before he lives up to his potential.

21. Zhou Qi, F/C, China

Qi already has the skill set that NBA teams covet in a big. He's huge, protects the paint and can stretch the floor offensively. He had a terrific season in China as an 18-year-old last season. The question now is, how can he add 30 pounds of muscle?

22. Grayson Allen, SG, So., Duke

Allen's explosive leaping and scoring ability get scouts excited. But can he impact the game on a nightly basis? Consistency will be the key for him. He's too low if he delivers regularly.

23. Caris LeVert, G/F, Sr., Michigan

LeVert's broken foot suffered in January of last year hurt his draft stock, but there's still time to rebuild it. He's young for his class, is one of the best playmaking wings in the draft and, with a big year, can re-sell his potential to scouts who are inherently suspicious of upperclassmen.

24. Nigel Hayes, F, Jr., Wisconsin

Hayes is still stuck between positions and might have benefited from playing third fiddle to Frank Kaminsky and Sam Dekker last year. Now that he's the main man at Wisconsin, can he handle the pressure?

25. Isaiah Briscoe, G, Fr., Kentucky

Briscoe is trying to carve a place out for himself next to Jamal Murray and Tyler Ulis in the Kentucky backcourt. He's focusing on defense right now, an effort John Calipari certainly welcomes, but Briscoe is more than just a defender. He can see the floor and score in a variety of ways. But will we really see it this year, with Murray and Ulis dominating the ball? He, too, could be a wait-until-next-year type of prospect.

26. Domantas Sabonis, PF, So., Gonzaga

Sabonis is already a terrific rebounder and has a fantastic basketball IQ. He's going to be an impact player this season, but his lack of shooting ability and athleticism lower his ceiling somewhat.

27. Carlton Bragg, F, Fr., Kansas

Scouts are watching Bragg closely. Like Bryant, he might be a late-blooming prospect who outperforms players ranked 10 or 15 spots higher than him coming out of high school. His versatile offensive game, terrific size and athleticism are his selling points, but will he get enough minutes in an already crowded Jayhawk frontcourt?

28. Timothe Luwawu, G/F, France

Luwawu is having a breakout season for Mega Vizura in the Adriatic League this season. He already projects as an elite defender. His offensive game is coming along, too.

29. Wade Baldwin IV, G, So., Vanderbilt

Baldwin didn't get a lot of hype coming out of high school, but a stellar freshman season has made him a favorite of the analytics crowd. He has great length and strength for his position, and he shot the ball well as a freshman. If he can continue to show an improved handle, he could be this year's Cameron Payne.

30. Justin Jackson, SF, So., North Carolina

Jackson's ability to shoot it from midrange, where he really excels, and from deep are the most attractive qualities he possesses. He's not a great athlete, but his size and length make up for his lack of explosiveness.

Next five in: Jalen Brunson, PG, Fr., Villanova; Devin Robinson, F, So., Florida; Troy Williams, F, Jr., Indiana; Jake Layman, F, Sr., Maryland; Chinanu Onuaku, C, So., Louisville
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Keep an eye on the English 7'1" Center at Cal, Kingsley Okoroh. I'm actually kinda convinced Utah and Cal are the teams to beat on the west coast. Okoroh can block shots, he was Martin's first signee(why is this word coming up on the spell-check!?) at Cal too.
 
Also forgot to mention Deyonta Davis from Michigan St. With a damn impressive debut, I like his chances at ending up better than Adreian Payne.

13-11-5blks in 21 minutes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Sa0sCGzL5g
 
Rhode Island's E.C. Matthews might have blown his knee out. That's a damn shame if true. He's not their only NBA prospect though. Apparently Hassan Martin has the attention of scouts also.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVZL1sVNL2A

I hope he's one of the 2nd round picks. I'd take him over Elijah Millsap for damn sure.
 
PG_AB said:
Keep an eye on the English 7'1" Center at Cal, Kingsley Okoroh. I'm actually kinda convinced Utah and Cal are the teams to beat on the west coast. Okoroh can block shots, he was Martin's first signee(why is this word coming up on the spell-check!?) at Cal too.
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I agree about Cal but some quality teams on West coast this year


Id go
Cal
Arizona
Zags/ Utah Zags got a nice front line and uUtah lost Delonte
Colorado is going be improved and has one of the best big men in country. Very underrated with quality footworjk and good size. Could be one of them Jazz 2nd round steals. Josh Scott.
 
ncoloradojazz said:
I agree about Cal but some quality teams on West coast this year


Id go
Cal
Arizona
Zags/ Utah Zags got a nice front line and uUtah lost Delonte
Colorado is going be improved and has one of the best big men in country. Very underrated with quality footworjk and good size. Could be one of them Jazz 2nd round steals. Josh Scott.
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If Josh Scott played decently in that opener vs Iowa St. they'd have won the game. They were 10 pt dogs too. If Askia Booker didn't declare for the draft, I'd like them much more. One of the fouls they called on Scott was so bogus though, totally clean block on Georges Niang, and they blew the whistle.

Scott is like a poorman's Jarrett Allen.. He appears every bit of 6'10" standing next to Niang, so I agree he's a potentially good 2nd rd prospect.

The Zags are overrated, no way their the best in the west. Pitt looked like they were about to pull off the upset, on that ice skating rink they were playing on in Japan. They should've had a bigger advantage with that court and Karnowski, Pretty sure Utah will kill them.

1/10 from the field for Trier in the opener. Ray Smith was a big loss for them.

Don't sleep on Oregon either, Dorsey and Brooks are NBA prospects, I'd have them in the top-25 preseason.
 
PG_AB said:
Kennedy Meeks with a very strong start to the season...



What happened to NC State?! A 85-68 loss to William & Mary ?? They started out losing 29-9?!?! How the hell did they get out-rebounded?!? I'm genuinely puzzled about that, only 6 boards for Abu in 30 minutes?!
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Gottfried.
 
Dr. Jones said:
Gottfried.
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I didn't watch the game. Looking at the boxscore and seeing Beejay Anya coming off the bench and playing 22 minutes is puzzling though, he wasn't in foul trouble.. doesn't make sense to me if their getting worked on the boards by William and Mary.

Why isn't Anya starting anyways??:confused:

Not a good start for Cat Barber either if he's hoping to get drafted in the 2nd round. Suprised to see Maverick Rowan got so many shots in his debut
 
****. This is a ****ing shame. He should've declared last year and hoped to go in the 2nd, someone would've signed him to a SL team and he would've been drafted to the d-league, probably pretty high, If he went undrafted in the real draft.

@ESPNAndyKatz Rhode Island announces that E.C. Matthews is done for the season with a right knee injury, suffered during first half Friday vs. American
 
Any thoughts on the Cheick Diallo situation, Now that games are live? I'm pretty sure his HS is the issue. Kansas obviously needs him for a deep run.

They're also looking into his relationship with his guardian, but that shouldn't be an issue because his mentor is also his legal guardian in Mali..

His draft stock won't deteriorate like Cliff Alexanders under any circumstance though.
 
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